Why pay if your not guilty? If you read the story on posted on Marvin it would lead you to believe so.
From Marvin/Fix
Why Are Stern's Electronic Guts Essentially the Same as Bally's? According to Tony Miller (a Stern employee in 1980), Gary Stern (a lawyer), with the backing of his father Sam Stern (a previous president of Williams), bought out Chicago Coin in the mid-1970s. At the same time Gary Stern also bought a small PC board assembly firm called Universal Research Laboratories (URL). URL was started by a couple of ex-Seeburg engineers to assemble PC boards. URL then later built a couple of video games (B17) and got into financial difficulties, where Gary Stern bought them out.
The reason why the Stern boards (1977-1982) were interchangeable with Bally was that URL 'reverse engineered' (copied) the Bally system. Litigation ensued, resulting in Stern paying a royalty to Bally for each game sold. Later Stern made some slight changes to the MPU board (to increase the amount of RAM and ROM).
Interestingly, when Gary Stern started DataEast in 1987, he did the same thing to Williams and copied their current "system11" boardset. The same result happened (lititgation), where DataEast ended up paying Williams a royalty for each game sold.
The other story is that Bally somewhat looked the other way when Stern copied their board system. The reason for this was simple: Bally wanted their pinball board system to be "the one", opposed to what Williams was doing. This way if a number of manufacturers used the "Bally solidstate system", it would become the "standard" and Bally would have the upper-hand over Williams. Pretty smart thinking really.
I find this thread offensive. I'll be sending Sparky a PM momentarily.
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It's a shame P2K died like it did, the developers that were at the NuCore seminar in Chicago were saying that Wizard Blocks was to be the first TRUE P2K game (the others were them just getting their feet wet).
Own Magic, Star Gazer, Batman Forever, STTNG, Mystery Castle (project)
Gone Fairy, Secret Service, Meteor x3, Title Fight, Eight Ball Deluxe, Bone Busters Inc., Seawitch, Starship Troopers, Strange Science, Arena, Hook, Pin*Bot x2, Time Warp, Motordome, Robocop, Black hole, Jurassic Park , Wipe-Out, Pinball Pro: Challenger I, Swords of Fury, Stargate, Party Zone
Own Magic, Star Gazer, Batman Forever, STTNG, Mystery Castle (project)
Gone Fairy, Secret Service, Meteor x3, Title Fight, Eight Ball Deluxe, Bone Busters Inc., Seawitch, Starship Troopers, Strange Science, Arena, Hook, Pin*Bot x2, Time Warp, Motordome, Robocop, Black hole, Jurassic Park , Wipe-Out, Pinball Pro: Challenger I, Swords of Fury, Stargate, Party Zone
Own Magic, Star Gazer, Batman Forever, STTNG, Mystery Castle (project)
Gone Fairy, Secret Service, Meteor x3, Title Fight, Eight Ball Deluxe, Bone Busters Inc., Seawitch, Starship Troopers, Strange Science, Arena, Hook, Pin*Bot x2, Time Warp, Motordome, Robocop, Black hole, Jurassic Park , Wipe-Out, Pinball Pro: Challenger I, Swords of Fury, Stargate, Party Zone
Never too late... find the prototype Wizard Blocks and you can try it, at what price though.
I know a guy who had a Pinball Circus he had boroughed from a friend who had one of the two, after playing a while with it, he offered the guy 50 000$ USD for it, but the offer was denied, not too long after the owner sold it to the Pinball museum in Los Vagas... must of been sold higher than the offer, what do you guys think
that "guy" who sold it to the pinball Museum is Steve Kordek.... who also designed Ticket Tac toe ...
Faque ok Monsieur big shot "I know a guy" a qui Steve Kordek a prêter pinball circus... who's the guy!? cause I don't see a lot of names on the list of people Steve Kordek would give the game to!
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that "guy" who sold it to the pinball Museum is Steve Kordek.... who also designed Ticket Tac toe ...
Faque ok Monsieur big shot "I know a guy" a qui Steve Kordek a prêter pinball circus... who's the guy!? cause I don't see a lot of names on the list of people Steve Kordek would give the game to!
This combination of French and English in one sentence is offensive. I'm PM'ing Sparky.
chill man! Maudit que tu est susceptible! et que j'HAIS les "nouveau" smilies par default! la "grosse bave verte" du smilie est censé être un gros smile pour démontrer que JE GNIAISE ... comme d'habitude!
et oui, Greg Kemnitz est sur la short liste de Steve Kordec,
oh ... and pinball 2000 sucks. no wonder they shut down the factory
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If you read the story on posted on Marvin it would lead you to believe so.
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