You go down more than a hooker at Christmas time  

Ha...and look what I found down under the tree...

My gift makes me ichy

Quoted from Pharoah007

My gift makes me ichy

It's the gift that keeps on giving!

I'm trying to track down the exact cause of the error but its hard to debug since its not always down !!

Basically there is a timeout somewhere in a Perl script.. or a ressource goes too high on the webserver. Trying to get the Apache error log as we speak.

Moving to the SQL e-blah wont fix the issue imo, i tried to run it while the server was down and it didnt work either (code is still Perl and i think we should move to a PHP based script).

Actually the real question is: how should be archive the old posts. There are several possibilities, i could make everything accessible from a browseable/searchable page and then we start fresh on the new script.. If you all wants to stay on e-Blah and keep everythign as it is, then we need to upgrade/fix the hosting server or move somewhere else. Its only a ressource issue imo...

EDIT: also you should all start to archive the pm's you want to keep somewhere, because that's going to be an issue as well if we move on.

Quoted from Azatotht

I'm trying to track down the exact cause of the error but its hard to debug since its not always down !!

More than once I've found that after doing a 'Search', it hangs, and then error 500. This is not the first time I've mentioned this. Don't believe me? Do a search!

Quoted from OTTOgd

Don't believe me? Do a search!

Just did, worked quite well   (actually broke it quite well...)

Ok, thx for pointing that out, i will start from there.

I have offered a lower load server just as soon as I get out from under some other "business" I had the software all installed and was just trying to migrate the database as a test, but then had to put it aside for the moment.  Sylvain is working on option.

The fact of the matter is, that despite how much we like MAACA as it is now, the E-blah forum is mostly "abandoned-ware" and we should be moving to a more "alive" implementation like PHPBBS (IMHO).

So maybe disable the search function for now?

Mike

Quoted from MrMikeman

So maybe disable the search function for now?

Mike

Yup, will look into that.

It seems to be one cause but its only a trigger, something else isnt working right.

The only thing that should be kept is the tutorial section, IMO.. the rest is just French nonsense    

and who cares about post counts?

Start fresh, save this old forum in a "MAACA Classic" section if you want to archive the whole thing.

I'd be willing to bet most of us don't look past the Portal anyway.

If you force everyone to re-register, I'll bet we'll lose half the membership (or more).

Don't forget the classifieds. Some people have WTB or FS ads up there that go back more than a year. It'd suck if they just vanished.

Are there many searches a day? at the same time? I have seen other sites that have a 20 second search rule. once a search is done you can only do another one 20 seconds later.

Quoted from cooke

If you force everyone to re-register, I'll bet we'll lose half the membership (or more).

A lot of them are inactive anyway, no?  We'd definitely lose a lot of "inyourface"'s  

Quoted from cooke

If you force everyone to re-register, I'll bet we'll lose half the membership (or more).

And that is bad how?

Quoted from b1buwg97

And that is bad how?

I agree. Nuke it. It's the only way to be sure.

Quoted from Azatotht

EDIT: also you should all start to archive the pm's you want to keep somewhere, because that's going to be an issue as well if we move on.

I just did this - very easy actually.   Within private messages just say "Print PM" - then you get a link to print all the PMs in your inbox/sent.   I then just printed them to a PDF document - its great now.   All the PM's are searchable!

PHPBB is the way to go.  I've set one up, and it's a breeze.  

Set a date, tell people to archive what they want, and start fresh.  Everyone can re-register, and start fresh.

I admit that I'll miss eblah. It's very easy to use and is quite fast. It's a shame it's now so unreliable.

Nuke it nuke it nuke it

Quoted from sentinelking

I agree. Nuke it. It's the only way to be sure.

Lol.

"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Quoted from Azatotht

I'm trying to track down the exact cause of the error but its hard to debug since its not always down !!

Basically there is a timeout somewhere in a Perl script.. or a ressource goes too high on the webserver. Trying to get the Apache error log as we speak.

Moving to the SQL e-blah wont fix the issue imo, i tried to run it while the server was down and it didnt work either (code is still Perl and i think we should move to a PHP based script).

Actually the real question is: how should be archive the old posts. There are several possibilities, i could make everything accessible from a browseable/searchable page and then we start fresh on the new script.. If you all wants to stay on e-Blah and keep everythign as it is, then we need to upgrade/fix the hosting server or move somewhere else. Its only a ressource issue imo...

EDIT: also you should all start to archive the pm's you want to keep somewhere, because that's going to be an issue as well if we move on.

Hmmm, just log on when I do, 8 outta 10 times I get the nasty 500s..........
Oh is there a limit to the amount of Pms we can keep on here...

Quoted from cooke

If you force everyone to re-register, I'll bet we'll lose half the membership (or more).

....and yer point is?  


And there's a tutorial section?  Where?

Quoted from jonny_eh

I admit that I'll miss eblah. It's very easy to use and is quite fast. It's a shame it's now so unreliable.

I think everyone agrees, eblah has it's good points and it's very straight forward and simple.  It's a shame to lose it.  But sometimes you just gotta move on and let the chips fall where they will.

Now one thing we could do is host both, but turn off all posting and sign-ups on the old MAACA - so it's just a reference archive - for Google. I wonder if that will work - disable PM and emailing from the old e-blah and just point everyone to continue in the new forum.  Bet you wouldn't notice a difference after 6 months or so.  same old crowd. same jokes, same compaints. and those damned Hollywood Heats and Hyperballs going back and forth...

Quoted from sentinelking

I agree. Nuke it. It's the only way to be sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1MspmfEwg

Quoted from websherpa

And there's a tutorial section?  Where?

Sorry, wishful thinking.    (I meant projects section -- kinda like tutorials, I suppose)

Quoted Text

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

You go, Corporal Hicks  

So is it getting nuked  

I agree to whatever people want.... even if it means getting a dedicated server for 50$ a month. For MAACA, I will pay it.

Are you running the SQL version? Should you be?

The platform was stable for the longest time. Are you sure it isn't a compatibility issue with something else they upgraded on the server?

The forum is a pretty powerful tool which allows you to use embedded code. It would be a shame to lose a lot of it's functionality. The interface is pretty easy to use.

Quoted from Sparky

I agree to whatever people want.... even if it means getting a dedicated server for 50$ a month. For MAACA, I will pay it.

Totally not necessary... like I've said before, I have no problem hosting for free, no strings attached.  I do the same for CGCC.

I don't understand all the rigamarol about the server... I have offered a good one for free.... the only problem is set-up time/manpower at the moment.  For gods sake how am I supposed to do it when I have to answer all these MAACA posts.....  

In any case, I've been enjoyiong the 500 errors.  got me back my life, I can actually take pee breaks and talk to my family instead of waiting to try to beat Gory to the post for a free Firepower.... or that mythical $2000 GNR ... or that damned Silver Slugger that got scooped right from under my nose...  

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Spoiler: Thankfully, they miss Canada.  

I do remember growing up in Vancouver where we were all given a map to the air raid shelters, and practiced in school for "bomb drills" - their answer at the time - "Hide under your desk."  I also remember praying at night that if THEY did drop the bomb, I would be at episcentre so that I wouldn't have to live through what the Japanese in Hiroshima, and Nagasaki lived through.

Quoted from websherpa

Spoiler: Thankfully, they miss Canada.  

Yes, of course you were totally safe in BC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_British_Columbia_B-36_crash

re: e-blah.  I beleive we are already running the SQL version.  

re: BC safety.  After 45 years of eating BC salmon, you think I am worried about a little plutonium?  Come on!

Quoted from websherpa

re: e-blah.  I beleive we are already running the SQL version.  

No we are not... BUT, we have a Beta SQL version installed for testing.

From their own website: There is an SQL beta version available. It is not by any means complete or in fully working status. You should check out the thread about it on the E-Blah Community before using it.

Give me a few days to troubleshoot the current issues, i just started looking into it last weekend.

Quoted from Azatotht

No we are not... BUT, we have a Beta SQL version installed for testing.

From their own website: There is an SQL beta version available. It is not by any means complete or in fully working status. You should check out the thread about it on the E-Blah Community before using it.

Give me a few days to troubleshoot the current issues, i just started looking into it last weekend.

That's too weird.  When I was copying the files to test on our server I thought it was the flat file system, then I suggested trying the Beta SQL and was told that you were already using it.  No worries.

I strongly suggest we do what I am proposing.  Set up a new forum in PHPBBS and freeze the original E-Blah MAACA for posterity.

Sylvain, let em know if you make any progress.  I'd be happy to give you the coordinates / access to our server that has been set up for MAACA for quite some time now.

Quoted from websherpa

Set up a new forum in PHPBBS and freeze the original E-Blah MAACA for posterity.

Exactly.  In a "MAACA Classic" section  

Computer Nerds!

Quoted from Jester

Computer Nerds!

No mess... I am getting a nosebleed reading all the details. And I thought SQL was cool chat slang for an education establishment.

Oh well...