yyyaaahhhooooo........
qlq heures avnt le concert tant attendu!!! a defaut d avoir la pin, je vais les voir en show...

Quoted from DavidC

yyyaaahhhooooo........
qlq heures avnt le concert tant attendu!!! a defaut d avoir la pin, je vais les voir en show...

Qui ça??? Ahh... Axl Rose et compagnie. Non merci... j'étais là en Août 1992... il peut bien aller chier. Le lendemain, j'ai crissé tout mes albums GNR aux poubelles et je n'ai jamais réécouté.

En revanche, j'aime beaucoup Velvet Revolver... le VRAI GNR.

Axl Rose can kiss my a**.

bah...moi en 1992 j etais pas ici alors aucunes rancunes envers lui...c est sur que je vais la pour les classiques mais aussi pour les nouvelles tounes de chinese democracy...
d apres les videos quej ai vu de London et winnipeg c est assez bon...

Qu'est-ce qui est arrivé en '92?  Je m'en vais le voir Dimanche à Ottawa.

ils ont pas fait le show et le stade etait plein!!!

le chanteur de metallica a eu des petards qui lui ont explosés dans la figure...

on a attendu GNR pendant 2 heures.... ils ont chantés 2 tounes pis "we're out of here!" ...

Émeute a suivi ...

Ouah!  Je des nerfs en tabernak pour ce présenter à Montreal!!! Holy cow, j'me demande s'il y en a qui y vont juste pour l'envoyer chier!  Soyez pas trop dure les boys, s'il est de mauvaises humeur, sa risque de ruiner mon spectacle!

Toute une soirée...
le concert etait tres bon et Axl de bonne humeur...mais je reviens la dessus plus loin...
premiere partie moyenne pour le premier groupe...par contre le second WAW, Sebastian Bach...tres cool et un petit prodige de 19 ans a la guit!!! impressionnant....
debut de la premiere partie a 20.00 mais GNR s est pointé a 22.30, le show commence sur les chapeaux de roues Welcome to the Jungle. «You know where you are? You're in Montreal. You're gonna diiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee»
qlq tounes puis une petite allusion a leur derniere venue a MTL...vous aimez ca casser des trucs...moi aussi parfois ca m arrive!!! moment fort du concert Axl qui court sur la scene d un bord a l autre avec sur lui un drapeau du Quebec...A la toute fin apres Paradise City il dit un truc qui ressemble un des excuses pour la derniere venue a MTL, il jase un peu et finalement offre qlq roses aux filles du parterre et de shooters a la premiere rangée...quoi qu on en dise j ai bien aimé le show, et je les ai trouvé tous généreux sur scene et DJ ASHBA est ben bon meme si klk coches en dessous de SLASH. En résumé, jje m attendais a un concert un peu froid et des rancuniers dans le public...y en avait c est sur mais finalement le standing de la fin et les vieilles tounes m ont fait oublier cela et le nouvelles tounes en show sonnent bien mieux que sur l album Chinese Democracy...
c est mon avis The Loafer tu me diras ton avis apres le show...mais pour moi JOB DONE...

David

Le deuxieme etait sebastian bach ...  l'ancien leader de Skidrow....  C,est une honte de dire que c'est le chanteur de pantera. La derniere fois qu'il est venu a MTL, c'était avec son band et pantera.

Axl plutot moyen selon moi, pas de voix et il a mal vieillis, le reste du band ont plutot tres bien fait la job.

Bye Gino

Quoted from redketchup

David

Le deuxieme etait sebastian bach ...  l'ancien leader de Skidrow....  C,est une honte de dire que c'est le chanteur de pantera. La derniere fois qu'il est venu a MTL, c'était avec son band et pantera.

Axl plutot moyen selon moi, pas de voix et il a mal vieillis, le reste du band ont plutot tres bien fait la job.

Bye Gino

oups!!! comme quoi mon anglais reste a perfectionner...j edite mon post et je corrige!!! t etais la Gino?

Yes Mr..

C'était le cadeau de fete que j'ai offert a ma blonde... y as pire comme cadeau a donné

Bye Gino

t etais ou ? moi section 117 rouge rangéé B belle vue mais j ai pas trouvé plus proche...moi je me suis fait un cadeau tout seul et jai forcé ma blonde a y aller...lol

Trust me... people that say "oh, you are overreacting... it couldn't be that bad and it happened 18 years ago" weren't there. It was a nightmare.

To sum it up more precisely, Faith No More opened up and played for 35 minutes... OK so far. No problems.

Metallica comes on, plays for less than an hour and then Hetfield burns himself BAD on some pyros. They all leave the stage.

No announcements, nothing...

TWO hours later, GNR come on stage and look pissed off (probably for lack of preparation or something, I don't know...). They play 1 complete song, and in the middle of the second song, Axl decides he has had enough, throws his mike and walks off. The other band members look at him and seem confused. Slash is the last to leave the stage after playing solo for 10 minutes.

No announcement.

The lights go on.

Thank you very much.

... and people just lose it.

I had to run away from crazy people tearing the place apart, and cops trying to beat me with their nightsticks. All becuase some a**hole didn't feel like singing that night. I paid good money to see that jackass play, and it is at the point that still to this day, I wouldn't spend 5 bucks on a GNR pin.

I only give someone the chance to screw me over once. Good or not last night, he is still a fruitcake.

section 101 ff, probablement dure a battre comme billet, tous pres de la scene sur le coté gauche a hauteur du stage.

ouin...tu l as vu de proche l AXL...chanceux!!!

Quoted from Sparky

Trust me... people that say "oh, you are overreacting... it couldn't be that bad and it happened 18 years ago" weren't there. It was a nightmare.

To sum it up more precisely, Faith No More opened up and played for 35 minutes... OK so far. No problems.

Metallica comes on, plays for less than an hour and then Hetfield burns himself BAD on some pyros. They all leave the stage.

No announcements, nothing...

TWO hours later, GNR come on stage and look pissed off (probably for lack of preparation or something, I don't know...). They play 1 complete song, and in the middle of the second song, Axl decides he has had enough, throws his mike and walks off. The other band members look at him and seem confused. Slash is the last to leave the stage after playing solo for 10 minutes.

No announcement.

The lights go on.

Thank you very much.

... and people just lose it.

I had to run away from crazy people tearing the place apart, and cops trying to beat me with their nightsticks. All becuase some a**hole didn't feel like singing that night. I paid good money to see that jackass play, and it is at the point that still to this day, I wouldn't spend 5 bucks on a GNR pin.

I only give someone the chance to screw me over once. Good or not last night, he is still a fruitcake.

Not that it makes the evening perfect, but considering the main act only put together 2 songs, there were no refunds offered or requested/granted?

Quoted from Sparky

I only give someone the chance to screw me over once. Good or not last night, he is still a fruitcake.

Do you use the expression fruitcake as per follow:

To describe one of weak or frail characteristics that do not uphold the expectations of others; and to describe one as "off one's rocker" or as one who has "lost one's marbles".


or to describe him as:

Fruit and fruit cake (as well as many variations) are sexual slang terms which have various origins but modern usages tend to primarily refer to gay men

Because you shouldn't insult the gay people so harshly.........

Quoted from gmaranda

Do you use the expression fruitcake as per follow:

To describe one of weak or frail characteristics that do not uphold the expectations of others; and to describe one as "off one's rocker" or as one who has "lost one's marbles".


or to describe him as:

Fruit and fruit cake (as well as many variations) are sexual slang terms which have various origins but modern usages tend to primarily refer to gay men

Because you shouldn't insult the gay people so harshly.........

A nut-job. And I am actually insulted that you would even think I would insult the gay community that way. Just proves that people are just too damn sensitive and freedom of speech is hindered.

Besides... one of my best friends is gay, and he uses terms to laugh at himself that I have never even heard of.

Quoted from The Loafer

Not that it makes the evening perfect, but considering the main act only put together 2 songs, there were no refunds offered or requested/granted?

None. After all the damage caused by the angry mob, they didn't refund anyone.

Quoted from gmaranda

Do you use the expression fruitcake as per follow:

To describe one of weak or frail characteristics that do not uphold the expectations of others; and to describe one as "off one's rocker" or as one who has "lost one's marbles".


or to describe him as:

Fruit and fruit cake (as well as many variations) are sexual slang terms which have various origins but modern usages tend to primarily refer to gay men

Because you shouldn't insult the gay people so harshly.........

Actually, here... you may like this better to describe Axl:

a**hole (oops... insult to proctologists but it does sound like his name)
Dickwad (oops... insult to people with premature reactions )
Dumbass (oops... insult to people with diminished intelectual capacity)
Thieving bastard (oops... insult to the criminally challenged)


... ah, screw it. I just can't win.

Here you go... Axl Rose is a proud upstanding member of our cultural society and merits great attention and even worship as a musical icon, regardless of his character flaws, illegal substance consumption or general work ethics. I would like to mention that the previous statement is the sole opinion of Sparky and in no way, shape or form reflects or insinuates to be the opinion of any and all distinguished members of this social community. Any feedback, backlash or social repercussions are the sole propriety of the initial statement owner and in no way seeks to offend any individual or social groups such as our homosexual community, animal lovers, Greenpeace, PETA, M.A.D.D. (Mothers Against Drunk Driving), the NAACP, Native Americans, Asians, Caucasians, Hindus, the Arabic community, lovers of brussel sprouts and broccoli, members of our Armed Forces, the Mormons, Sexaholics Anonymous, les Raéliens, the Tug Of War Association of England, Triskaidekaphobics, people under 5 feet tall, people between 5 and 6 feet tall, people over 6 feet tall, overweight people, skinny people, Pee Wee Herman, Harley Riders of America, lovers of Erik Estrada, Erik Estrada himself, the inhabitants of Bora Bora, Gamblers Anonymous, the Swedish Necrophilia Association, all people suffering from Irritable Bowel Symdrome, and B1buwg97.    

Now if you don't find that funny,

PLEASE LIGHTEN UP!

Axl Rose is an a**hole.  Not a fan, but much of what I've read about him indicates a high level of douchbagery.

Here are the highlights of the concert. Although I love going to concerts (probably my 30th in 14 years) and I do love music, I'm very much a casual music fan.  I can't remember song names, group members or any heavy group details.  Concerts for me are always an introductury point to a group.  My brother in law who I attend these with, he's the real deal Rock fan, so I rely on his for what is good to see.

- Got at Scotiabank place at 7:15, they had the most severe security check (for cameras) I’ve ever seen.  Took us about 1 hour to get through the door (concert was to start at 8pm)
- Backup band started at 8:00pm, we kind of listened to them from the hall (no offence but from what I was hearing, good enough for us).
- Afterwards, got to the seats, they were awesome; first section from the stage (on the side); 15 rows up.
- Next up was Sebastian Bach.  Damn he was good and so was the Skid Row stuff he played.  Nice flashback to the past.  Tu avais raison David, that 19 year old guitarist knows what he's doing!
- He finished around 9:30-9:40pm I believe
- Finally Guns and Roses came on at… 11:11pm!  Holy crap! A 90 minute wait!

So that sounds disappointing but in reality, it was not.  I was warned by my brother-in-law and others at work that it could be a long wait so we chatted, I took a walk, etc.  Then after that long wait, Axl and his troup played from 11:11pm... until 2:05pm, a nearly 3 hour set with a minimal encore pause.   Great stage, lots of variety (piano solo from bandmate and his own contribution was great, Bubbles in his spacesuit was pretty funny, some interaction with the crowd).  His voice at times certainly is starting to show its age, but he still knock some of the tunes out of the park and the energy was there.  Also from my limited concert experience, you certainly do not get a studio voice from most act; I can attest the same from AC/DC, KISS, The Guess Who, Billy Idol, Def Leoppard, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Ozzie, heck even Clapton.  Just comes with the territory from getting old I guess .

I have to admit, the show surpassed my expectations; two huge thumbs up.  So Axl Rose is a nutcase, but he sure freakin' knows how to entertain and if he ever comes back again, may take in another visit.

... I'll just ensure I book off the next day in advance, as opposed to doing so at 3:30am (time I got home!)!

Loaf

Thanks for the write up, Loafer. I definitely considered going, but didn't . The new CD is incredible and is a natural progression from Use Your Illusion I & II. Some of the tracks are just incredible and classic. If it was any other band, it would be getting play on the radio non-stop, but I think the hype took the steam out of the release.

I agree w/ you re: Bach. Amazing singer and he's Canadian. A Scarborough boy I believe. I saw him open for GnR back in the day at Toronto. I was 5 rows from the stage. Incredible voice.

Cheers,
Duane

I too went to the concert last night. But unlike Loafer, I sat in the nose bleeds in the 300s. Also, unlike Loafer, I didn't have to wait to get in at all! I arrived at the same time but got a quick 2 second pat down and was let in.

Despite the seats, the show still rocked. Yes, it was a long wait for Axl to come on stage but that was to be expected and the show was worth it. They played a good number of the newer songs that to me are rather forgettable but they also played a ton of their old stuff. When they started playing "You Could Be Mine" the crowd freaked out, it was awesome. I really wish I was old enough to see GNR when they were in their prime (but not in Montreal) with Slash. I don't know who these other guys strumming on the stage were but they played really well. They stayed true to Slash's original riffs. It was like seeing the world's best GNR cover band with Axl Rose guest singing.

And in defence of the opening band, Danko Jones, I like them! I have a few of their songs on my iphone. Yes, most of their songs consist of a single chord over and over but it still rocks. Even the singer admitted to that while on stage.

happy  to hear you enjoyed your show...may i ask what do you think about DJ ASHBA the main guitarist of the new GNR? for me, he s not slash but i found him FANTASTIC...lot of charism et plein de qualités que je connais pas les mots en anglais!!!! Je pense qu il a de gros souliers a porter, dans l ombre de slash...mais perso je l ai trouvé vraiment bon et tres communicateur avec le public...et son entree en scene debut du concert sur toile a fond rouge m a agreablement surpris!!! Pour moi s ils reviennet j y retourne c est sur!!!

DJ ASHBA?  Wasn't sure of his name but he played very well. IMHO, not sure why he wears a crunched version of Slash's hat though, seemed a bit in poor taste but I assume that's an inside joke on Axl's part.

des moments fort de ce show a Montreal





et la fin du show

Concerning Bach and that wiz kid 19 year old guitarist:  Before he introduced him, I would have sworn they were related (father/son?) as I thought there was quite a resemblance.  But it was never acknowledged so doesn't look like it.

Quoted from jonny_eh

They played a good number of the newer songs that to me are rather forgettable but they also played a ton of their old stuff.

Sorry to take to hi-jack the thread somewhat, but how can you not like the new songs? So many of the songs just rock.

Try giving it a few listens.

The disc opens strong with the first three tracks being absolutely incredible: Chinese Democracy (killer opening riff), Shackler's Revenge, and Better. IRS and Madagascar are great tracks as well. This I Love is a classic "this one is for the ladies" track. Etc. Best of all I can listen to the album with my wife without being embarrassed by the misogyny prevalent in Appetite. If he could stop dropping the occasional F bomb, I could listen to it with the kids in the room -- oh well that's what Kiss is for.

Duane

Shackler's Revenge is the only memorable song on there. The album isn't bad, it's just forgettable. I've hear it a few times, but I still couldn't recall the songs when they played them on stage, with the exception of Shackler's.

I saw them back in '02, while they weren't bad I find it ridiculous that they call any
reincarnation of the last decade Guns and Roses.  As far as the new album I find
it is just plain bad.  This album received no airplay because it stinks not because
the radio industry is trying to black ball them.  

The opening track (I believe) received tons of airplay around here for a short period
of time but fizzled out because of lack of popularity.  I can't think of a single person
who said they like any of the new stuff, and most people I know were big fans back
in the day.  

Quoted from silverball

I can't think of a single person
who said they like any of the new stuff, and most people I know were big fans back
in the day.  

Rolling Stones had a very favourable review:

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/24024297/review/24161281/chinese_democracy

The problem is most folks are "fans in the day" and want it to sound exactly like GnR did. People evolve. 20+ years have come and gone since the initial CD. The disc is outstanding in my opinion. I think it is as good as Use Your Illusion I & II. I found a few tracks on UYI I & II to be filler. On Chinese Democracy, I think every track is valid. Just my opinion and this from someone who remembers first listening to them before they got airplay. My buddy had the CD before I heard one track on radio. Then BAM! They were huge.

Duane

Quoted from The Loafer

DJ ASHBA?  Wasn't sure of his name but he played very well. IMHO, not sure why he wears a crunched version of Slash's hat though, seemed a bit in poor taste but I assume that's an inside joke on Axl's part.

DJ Ashba's one of the most talented guitarists I've seen (having been able to sit and jam with him a couple of times)  He's been wearing that same exact hat for years (since the days of beautiful creatures) so I can assure you it wasn't in bad taste.

He's really pushed back with how he can play for GNR as axl has a tight leash on all of his band,  but I definately suggest listening to some beautiful creatures and sixx am.

I think it would have been better received if they had used
a different name for the band.  I know a lot of bands maintain
the original name even after significant line-up changes but
for my money this isn't Guns and Roses.  

In my opinion Velvet Revolver should have used the name
Guns and Roses (I know legally Axl owns the name).
Then again I prefer Scott Weiland to Axl any day.

And I agree, while I liked the two UYI albums, they could have
put all the good tunes on one album and tossed all the filler.

Quoted from silverball

I think it would have been better received if they had used
a different name for the band.  I know a lot of bands maintain
the original name even after significant line-up changes but
for my money this isn't Guns and Roses.

Like it or lump it, the lead singer is basically the band in most cases. Skid Row isn't the saw without Bach and GnR without Axl is well...Velvet Revolver. Personally, I don't have an issue with the name. I think Chinese Democracy is a very natural evolution from UYI, so makes sense to keep the name. I really enjoy VR, again just wish they would stop using the F bomb to make a point which is often, but otherwise a great band.

Now KISS in make up without Criss and Frehley is a tribute band, but that's another thread

Duane

NIRVANA for the win!!   Would have made an amazing pin theme. Could have played "Drain You" for all the outlanes, "Smells Like MULTIBALL Spirit", or "Something In The Way" drop targets.

Quoted from SoapyMule

NIRVANA for the win!!   Would have made an amazing pin theme. Could have played "Drain You" for all the outlanes, "Smells Like MULTIBALL Spirit", or "Something In The Way" drop targets.

Kurt Cobain can eat a Huge Bag of Wangs in hell.

"Like it or lump it, the lead singer is basically the band in most cases."

I can't think of another single example where the lead singer leaves a band
and continues to use the band name, while the rest of the band remains
unchanged with a new vocalist and uses a different name.  

"I think Chinese Democracy is a very natural evolution from UYI"

I find it hard to see any natural evolution between two albums that were
released almost 20 years apart.  Especially with all the line-up changes
in the new version on GNR.  Just for kicks I looked up the bands timeline
for members, it's up to 22 members now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guns_N%27_Roses_band_members#Timeline


But you said you enjoy the album and that's all that matters.  Music is a lot like pinball,
what one person considers junk another enjoys and vice versa.

Quoted from SoapyMule

NIRVANA for the win!!   Would have made an amazing pin theme. Could have played "Drain You" for all the outlanes, "Smells Like MULTIBALL Spirit", or "Something In The Way" drop targets.

Git outta here you! We're talking about good music in this thread