You lost the argument at this point. Nudging is a skill -- as is being able to consistently hit what you are aiming for. It's amazing to watch good players nudge a pinball.
Personally, I love football. Ti-Cats are my favourite because I was born in Hamilton. Go Cats Go! Win the World Cup! Score a homer! Go Cats Go!
Oh crap! Canadian Football is way worse than soccer. At least there are more than a half dozen teams in WCS and they are comprised of the best of the best. CFL sucks!
Oh crap! Canadian Football is way worse than soccer. At least there are more than a half dozen teams in WCS and they are comprised of the best of the best. CFL sucks!
You lost the argument at this point. Nudging is a skill -- as is being able to consistently hit what you are aiming for. It's amazing to watch good players nudge a pinball.
Nahhh. Nudging is for pinball players who are out of control....Lyman Sheats doesn't nudge
The whole concept of nudging is to keep the ball IN control, and it's a LEARNED SKILL. Just wailing on a machine really won't do much for you, but the right push, nudge, shove or shake can turn an average schlub into a pretty decent pinball player.
If you think pinball is more chance than skill, then you haven't played enough pinball.
you can randomly chimp the flippers and still achieve a good score....
Oh really! Care to put that to the Test?? Next time I'm in Ottawa, we'll play $20 a game, you can sit there and chimp on the flippers and I'll play regularly and we will see who will comes out on top, sound fair? I mean if you thinking you can chimp away on the flippers and still get a good score in comparison to aiming your shots then I'd assume you'd be all over this.
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nudging doesn't count (nudging is cheating)
!! Since when??!! Pinball was FOUNDED on nudging!! Remember those old flipperless machines that pinball spawned from, what to hell do you think people were doing on them when there was no flipper. Oh wait I forgot you don't actually play pinball you stand there and chimp away and get distracted by the pretty colors.
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Try randomly chucking darts at a board...odds are the person wont even hit the board.
Try randomly chimping the flippers and I guarantee you will lose every single time to anyone with even the remotest level of Skill, that's right there is that SKILL thing again that's involved in pinball.
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Maybe...but he'd still be wrong
Maybe in your head, but the vast majority disagrees with you, but hey my offer of $20 a game stands next time I'm in Ottawa, I mean if pinball requires no skill and you can chimp away, it should be easy money right??
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Have you ever even watched Lyman play! Stop talking out your a$$ if you've never even seen the dude play, he has nudging down to a science.
Watch an interview or two with him...the one when he brings his Addams Family to the morning talk show. He says that he doesn't nudge. He captures the ball, and aims his shots.
Yes the old bar machines were all about nudging...then Harry Williams added "tilt" to stop the cheaters. Since then cheaters just kept on nudging, but in moderation.
Keep your $20...we all know your a excellent pinball player...practice practice practice
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!! Since when??!! Pinball was FOUNDED on nudging!! Remember those old flipperless machines that pinball spawned from, what to hell do you think people were doing on them when there was no flipper. Oh wait I forgot you don't actually play pinball you stand there and chimp away and get distracted by the pretty colors. 
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