Ok to those who own one is it really that great. I have played it a few times and loved it..but does a guy really spend 8k on one...I found a nice one for that but a reality check is needed here ..its a long stretch from 3500- 4500 alll the way to 8k for a single pin right?...or is it..These are not easy to find and I can have one shipped up with another machine I may buy. I guess Im looking for a few dont do its...thx

Quoted from sorcerer

I guess Im looking a few dont do its...thx

Don't do it ....

lol..Thx..A few more please...

Quoted from Steph

Don't do it ....

Don't do it. I second that.

Quoted from Steph

Don't do it ....

What he said...

Quantity vs Quality.

Take your pick.

Seriously....  $8k is a crazy price to pay for a pin...

MM is good, but it's not "that" good...

I personally think MM is hugely over-priced.

I can't find a single reason why it shouldn't be priced in the $3-4K range
(... other than perhaps scarcity..., but even then.. )

I think TZ is a better game,  .... for half the price.

...but that's just me...

Steph

good luck selling that later if you do!! 8K

Quoted from Steph

Seriously....  $8k is a crazy price to pay for a pin...

MM is good, but it's not "that" good...

I personally think MM is hugely over-priced.

I can't find a single reason why it shouldn't be priced in the $3-4K range
(... other than perhaps scarcity..., but even then.. )

I think TZ is a better game,  .... for half the price.

...but that's just me...

Steph

Thats what I needed...Its easy with a new line of credit and a few extra bux saved to get out of line...Ok I will pass on it..Thanks for getting my feet back on the ground...
Cheers

What a waste of money.  Go buy a couple minty A list titles, or a dozen classic SS machines.  

There is NOOOO way that this pin can be THAT unbelievably better.  Rarer, yes.  Better, no.

I would disagree with the "Quantity vs. Quality"... this is "Status vs. Quantity"

Then again, if the machine blew me every time I played, it might be worth that.  Might.

I thought the normal price for a decent one is in the $6,500 to $7,000 range? I haven't really followed the price of the game, though, as I don't plan on getting one.

I completely understand why MM commands the $$$ it does. It is a fantastic game. For me, I would rather have a LOTR and TSPP than a MM (both HUO), but that's my choice and I can appreciate why some would rather have the MM. I really like MM. It's a fun, and fast game w/ an excellent package: theme, art, light show, humour, DMD graphics, toys and game play. It is simply one, if not, the best game put out by Williams. It's a classic.

Still, if I was spending that kind of cash, I would want to see the game in person and pick it up -- even if that meant several hours of driving and a stay over night.

Good luck on your decision,
Duane

Even at $8K if it is really nice, how much will you lose if you decide to sell it?

How many of the people who posted "Don't Buy It" have it? Or are at least have a Love for WPC Games? or games from that era?

I know, I know, no pin is worth $8K, on the other hand, how many have you seen for substantially less? Anybody have a MM in pretty nice shape for $5000?? I Will Buy It!

Dave  (Oh, Buy it!)

Quoted from Steph

Seriously....  $8k is a crazy price to pay for a pin...

MM is good, but it's not "that" good...

I personally think MM is hugely over-priced.

I can't find a single reason why it shouldn't be priced in the $3-4K range
(... other than perhaps scarcity..., but even then.. )

Over priced? Really? Can you think of any other hobby where the most desirable item within that hobby can actually be obtained by regular mortals? I think $8K is still cheap compared to other hobbys. Comics? Stamps? Cars? Hell you can spend more on some parts for a "classic" car.

There is one reason why MM isn't a $4k game: supply and demand. I'd take one at $4K. I'd take one at $4.5....maybe $5K....alright at $5,500 I'm out, but there are plenty of others willing to drop the coin and drive the price up.

Duane

damn it I hate it when there is two sides to a story/ point of view...lol..Thx guys but I think im gonna pass on it...maybe they will come down a little bit again in the future...I will grab the 3500usd cherry Indy and gooo....Cheers

After playing it a while back at Medvets's I can see why it commands the price. Now Cactus Canyon at that level? That doesn't make sense. I played it once and couldn't figure out what the fuss was about. I'll buck the trend here as one that bought on impulse MANY MANY times...go for it Sorcerer!!!!!!    ....the way you're buying A list machines you'll end up with one eventually anyway, so why not get it now and enjoy it sooner than later?????

  awesome Jim...give me a few more single malts and I just might...lol..

Well,the price may not be a factor depending on your affordability. If you make 200K a year then 8Gs isnt bad but if your low income I'd think twice.....also Will you actually plan to sell it later? Personally I dont buy pins to resell. If I get the one I really want ( IE Haunted House) its a keeper for me. I wouldnt sell it!

Quoted from sorcerer

...maybe they will come down a little bit again in the future...

Not bloody likely!  

Quoted from websherpa

Not bloody likely!  

Exactly, If you want a Nice MM, this is right in the ballpark of what you have to pay, especially if you are buying from a collector or someone in the know.

Dave

Quoted from briguy

Well,the price may not be a factor depending on your affordability. If you make 200K a year then 8Gs isnt bad but if your low income I'd think twice....

Very good point...

Bottom line ... $8K is over-priced,  ...driven in large part by hype

Then again, like others have said, you won't find anything under $6K anyways,
so depending on how bad you want it,  an extra $2K "might" be justifiable ... to you...

I paid $4K+ for a Joust pin which few could justify, ...but it was worth it to me...

So here's what you do...
... you take a coin ... and call it on the flip !



Steph

Go for it, then sell it to me when you're bored with it. I'm sure by then I'll have room for it.

I think that price is fair (depending on condition) based on what I've seen lately online.

Quoted from TwilightZone

Over priced? Really? Can you think of any other hobby where the most desirable item within that hobby can actually be obtained by regular mortals? I think $8K is still cheap compared to other hobbys. Comics? Stamps? Cars? Hell you can spend more on some parts for a "classic" car.
Duane

I have seriously considered a Paul Reed Smith "private stock" guitar.  would have a retail somewhere in the neighborhood of $15,000.
I've paid almost 8k for a single guitar in the past, but doubling that would be a little much.

And to be honest, the $8,000 Guitar i had?  I got rid of.  I much prefferred my standard stock model. (at 1/3 the price)

To me 8k is a LOT to pay for a pin.... if you haven't played it.   If you regular'd a MM pin and looked forward to playing it every single time? maybe.
If you've played it once or twice and are looking at the market desirability to push you into "is hould buy it" territory??? then I would say no.

Don't believe the hype.,

How long have you been in this hobby ?  If it's been only a short while, even just a few years, you need to go through the normal evolutionary process before you start owning the cherriest of the cherry pins.  Let's say you go out and buy MM, MB, BBB, CC, and whatever.  Then what ?  Where do you go from there ?  Is $8000 a lot to pay for a pin ?  Hell yeah.  Like it, hate it, whatever, that's a lot of $ for one machine.   But that's what makes it something you can work towards.  Buy that IJ, LOTR, etc, then one day, perhaps even on your deathbed, get that MM.  Then you can die happy.

Adam's Pinball purchase rule #346:
It's not a house, so you can't live in it. It's not a car, so you can't drive it to work. It's not food, so you can't eat it. If you have to use credit to buy it then it's out of your price range. Best to wait till you have the cash.

But then again, some people are more comfortable carrying debt then I am.

Wait until you bring it home. There is something quite special about owning an MM. Let's put it this way you can get down the road in a three wheeled Isetta but it's a whole lot nicer driving a Bentley.

If your seriously into WPC pinball and can afford it I would say do it.

You have the bug for MM - it will eat at you till you own it.

If its a nice unit you could resell it for similar cash if willing to wait.

Quoted from McMean

What a waste of money.  Go buy a couple minty A list titles, or a dozen classic SS machines.  

If i had the ca$h and the space , i ' d go for a dozen of SS games ...  

Buy an MM.
It's the best game ever made, in my opinion. I've tried not to like it; because of the price
But I couldn't....its too much fun! You wont regret the purchase...especially if you buy it in the USA soon $$$$$$$

I'm a WPC fan and I have definitely asked myself whether MM is worth the 8k.  And it's gonna be 8k after shipping, taxes, etc.  I've only played a few games on one so I have asked those who have it about how they like it.  I look at it as either MM or a couple of other A titles.  I think I will seek out a MM eventually.  So I say go for it!

If you already have most all the other "A" list pins that you ever wanted then I say go for it.

If not, I'd probably have it as one of the crowning pieces in a collection, as forking out 8K for a pin would only be an option if: 1) the cash was NO problem, and 2) there is nothing else left out there that I want that costs less.

It's a good pin for sure but not so far superior to several others that cost less in my opinion.  I have a list of at least 8 or 10 pins I'd buy before MM.

Buy, if you really like it, buy it!

The way I look at the price is I compare it to my buddies that have gone out and bought expensive cars, rolled them off the lot and lost more than an MM going over the curb. I don't do that but I buy pinballs.

Most of the those cars that made them happy are worth pennies on the dollar and either are in the bone yard, close to it or sold for much less than they paid.

And there stands MM. Makes me happy, worth what I have in it. Even if someday it wasn't I use the car analogy and realize my depreciation for my toy was on pinball, when for my buds they were guaranteed the depreciation their cars.

You only go around once. Buy the damn game while there are still some available.

Worst thing to do is ask others what they like and don't like.........as you just read.  If you asked the question, you answered it..............don't buy.

Keep on playing

If you're trying to justify spending 8k on MM with any logic, then you probably shouldn't buy it.  There's much better ways to spend 8k than on a pinball machine.  However, if money spending 8k isn't an issue, then MM is a reasonable choice.  Hype or not, it's been around for 15 years.  It's a proven commodity in pinball as far as pins go.  If it's not your cup of tea, sell it.  Someone will buy it.

It's a great game and yes it might be worth that much..  However!!  It's hard to sell a machine at that price.  I learned the hard way with MB..  Lost money in the end.  If you tried to sell that here locally you'd get lots of trade offers but rarely that much cash.

Something to consider..

Mike

True, market is a whole lot smaller with MM's, MB's, CC's, etc if you insist on a local sale.  But unless you were dying for cash, trades aren't a bad thing either.  Chances are, most of us has something on their want list.

Quoted from MrMikeman

It's a great game and yes it might be worth that much..  However!!  It's hard to sell a machine at that price.  I learned the hard way with MB..  Lost money in the end.  If you tried to sell that here locally you'd get lots of trade offers but rarely that much cash.

I would disagree. I have found selling A title games to be no problem. I sold both my CV and AFM for my asking price and had to turn away buyers. I think a MM would sell relatively easily if priced fairly and in nice shape. BTW, I never even had to list them for sale. Just emailed those who had expressed an interest.

Condition is king. Make sure the game is in nice shape and you can sell it easily down the road. Don't skimp and buy something that isn't in decent shape. That will get you in the end when you try to sell.

Duane