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I am shipping a project pin up from Iowa and looking for online documents that have to be sent to the guy shipping it for me.

I am thinking I must treat it like an import vice him treating it as an export since I am making the declaration and paying the taxes.

If I deal with it as an import what I am getting out of reading this is that I send a couple of documents from here to him to include with the shipment.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/acc-resp-eng.html#P266_22757

I am guessing it's these two documents with two copies of each and using an HS # of 9504.30.00.19

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/ci1.pdf
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/b3-3.pdf

Is that the process to send off the documents off electronically to the guy shipping them? It doesn't seem right to me though since the declairation can't be signed by me until it's here.

Any help would be appreciated.



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When I imported a game from TX, I had to take all the paperwork down to a customs office (kennedy and 401 area) and pay the taxes on the spot. (I can't recall if the game was still in transit or if it had hit a warehouse by that point)  It was a long time ago, so the details are a little fuzzy.

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I brought in a game 2 years ago from Texas with another one coming any day by Forward Air. The seller just filled out one form provided by Forward air and when I picked the game up at the airport, I walked over to airport customs, showed them the waybill with the value and paid my taxes and drove away. Pretty simple and the sheet provided by Forward Air was simply the sellers address, mine, brief description of the item (pinball) and the declared value.

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That is just the waybill, but Forward Air is charging an additional $40 to fill out a customs document from what I understand that they automatically incorporate into your shipping price. If you fill out the document(s) then you save $40. I am thinking putting pen to paper on a document isn't worth $40 so I will fill it myself. Just not sure what document it is beyond the waybill?

http://www.forwardair.com/forms/online/OnlineBOL.pdf



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PFFFT!  For $40 you're going to put yourself through all of this??  It's $40!  With my time being at a premium these days that doesn't sound like too bad of a deal to not have to search for the right paperwork or be concerned about filling it out correctly.  (or even if you've filled out the right form)  

Sounds like you've got lots of spare time... can I have some?  

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It's not that simple. Forward Air certainly does not have their stuff together. I have phoned them 4 times and gotten 4 different quotes and several different explanations. Ultimately I don't want the seller to show up without having all the proper documentation. It's a case of if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.

They also have a $60 warehouse charge in YYZ that they neglected to mention when you talk to them on the phone when getting quotes from the head office. In my conversation with the Toronto office they came up with that charge.

Yes I guess that I am apparently not so wealthy as some of you high rollers. $40 + another $60 or a $100 difference in shipping to me is a considerable descrepency to pay so resolving an issue as opposed to throwing money at the problem is the course of action I am going.

All in all it is looking better to still send it to Buffalo even when considering in the drive. If you send it to YYZ they levy a $60 charge on that they don't in BUF. You also are required to pick up documentation, drive 20 minutes to customs, clear the item, drive 20 minutes back and get your item. I can be in BUF in a little over 2hrs and customs is on the route coming back. So in the end you end up saving $40+60+another $50 on these shipping while adding less than 2hrs to the entire transaction with the extra drive. For $150USD it starts to become clear why you would examine all of these aspects.



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The CCI form needs to be filled out by you or the seller.  Some of the freight companies know this if they are competent with cross border shipments.  Some require a broker as they don't want to deal with it at all.  Anyways, here's the link:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/acc-resp-eng.html

Download the CCI form.  It's easy to fill out and not worth the $40 charge once you do it once and realize how easy it is.


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Thanks for the info.



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Glen,

I can give you a copy of the paperwork that i've kept from sellers in the US, its pretty straight forward.

I've used EGL and a few others, I just pick up from their terminals around yyz. This was cheaper than me driving to buffalo by far.
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By the sounds of it, Medvet's experience mirrors my own.

I brought a game in from Texas last year. I'd never imported anything before, so I was a little bit apprehensive.

The vendor used Hercules Freight --> http://www.herculesfreight.com/. Shipping charges were $299. Not sure if the vendor took a cut of that for paperwork or not.

When it arrived in Toronto, Hercules faxed me the appropriate paperwork. I went up to the customs office and paid the taxes. Make sure that you have something that shows the pin cost and the shipping cost. The vendor only provided a total amount, but I had the e-mails that showed the breakout. The customs guy was cool and subtracted the shipping fee from the invoice.

I took the paperwork to another office in the same building. They faxed something to Hercules to release the machine. The machine was in the garage by the time I got home from work.

Everyone involved - Hercules, customs, release team - made it very easy.


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I think we're all forgetting the most important question, here... what game is it?  


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