Crest:  $7.50

Pre-orders:

Bish - 5 PD  Delivered Oct 2
Sparky - 5 PD  Delivered at SB
McMean - 1 PD  Delivered Oct 7
Gory - 20 PD  Delivered Oct 5
OTTOgd - 2 PD Mailed Oct 3
igorsr -2 PD Mailed Oct 3
Mr. Hyde - 1
Vengeance - 3 (one freebie for his help with the artwork) PD Will bring to SB
Ricker - 1  Mailed Oct. 3 PD
The Loafer - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
Sylvain - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
B1bwug - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
cooke - 1 Mailed Oct 3
Hippochrome - 1 Mailed Oct 20
Mark - 1 PD Mailed Oct 13
Monkeybug - 1 Mailed Oct 3
Tuborg - 2 PD Mailed Oct 3
Dr_Menace - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
Alienagent - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
Tijacquesx - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
Squidvicious - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
PinballCyclone - 1 PD Received Oct 7
Redketchup -1
TwilightZone - 1 PD Received Oct 20
Spacecadet - 1 PD Mailed Oct 3
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Total - 57!  This is the first time there's been demand for more than 50 crests.  I will be ordering enough to fill all of the requests.

  so so about the design but will still get 10 to start.

Quoted from gorydeath

  so so about the design but will still get 10 to start.

What would you prefer instead?  All the artwork I can find on the internet is small and blurry.  I can't get anything that is high enough quality to lift the knight's body/horse, etc.

Huh? I pre-ordered!

*sniffle*

Btw, I might be able to help with the artwork.

I just picked up my BK today!

Maybe Monty Python.  I will take two.

  yea.  not alot of good shots.  found these:

http://acepinball.com/images/blackknightbackglass.jpg
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=310&picno=15997


    too bad its not bk2k

Boost all my pre-orders to 5 please...

Bish, count me in please.

Which artwork do you need?

You could use something like this:



Taken from:
http://www.classicplayfields.com/photo10.html

I'm in for 2, I was thinking about using these for TOPL prizes maybe.  

Gory:  The backlighting mutes all the colours, and makes it difficult to get a faithful reproduction.  Unlit pictures are just as difficult to work with, and some are partially obscured by a flash.  What I really need is a good quality scan of the BG.  Maybe we'll just have to do a BK2000 as well.  There's more material to work with, actually.  It just seems more people have a BK than a BK2000 here.

Cooke:  I have that playfield shot (CPR), but the graphic is difficult to lift, as part of it is obscured by the cape, and the inserts.

OTTOgd:  I knew someone had pre-paid, but at midnight I couldn't remember who.  I figured that person would remind me.  

I am good for one. Thanks Bish.

Without going to tons of effort (and keep in mind, it's not complete), is this more what you had in mind, Gory?

I like the second one better myself though I wish one could be found with the horse also.

Count me in for one Bish.

Makes me want to get a BK now...

Quoted from Bish

Without going to tons of effort (and keep in mind, it's not complete), is this more what you had in mind, Gory?

I would buy that one!

Dave

makes me want to unwrap my backglass and see what I can do with it!

Quoted from Mrhide

makes me want to unwrap my backglass and see what I can do with it!

Ouch.  That bad, hmm?

I have continued to work on the design, and may be well on my way to getting the knight on the horse, which seems to be what everyone really wants.

DiamondDave on CGCC took a photo of the one he's selling, and so far, it's the best I've been able to find for colour and clarity.  The only problem is on the photo he took, the flash obscured the knight's head, plume and collar.

I've asked Dave if he could take a photo with those areas visible.  We'll see what he says.

Here's what the design could look like (yes...I'm aware the knight is still headless)

Please let me know if this is what you want.

  yes, yes, yes...   HELL YES.
  that is what i want in a patch.  nice work.  headless is a good look.  can't wait to see with the head on and to get some in the shop.

Quoted from Bish

I have continued to work on the design, and may be well on my way to getting the knight on the horse, which seems to be what everyone really wants.

DiamondDave on CGCC took a photo of the one he's selling, and so far, it's the best I've been able to find for colour and clarity.  The only problem is on the photo he took, the flash obscured the knight's head, plume and collar.

I've asked Dave if he could take a photo with those areas visible.  We'll see what he says.

Here's what the design could look like (yes...I'm aware the knight is still headless)

Please let me know if this is what you want.

Your latest design is *really* nice (even without seeing the head yet), keep up the great work!

Please pencil me in for one BK crest.

Thank you,
- Sylvain.

Hey,

He has  no head?

I like it!

Sign me up

Quoted from b1buwg97

Hey,

He has  no head?

I like it!

Sign me up

How about this?

Quoted from mark

How about this?

Don't make me pull out my Dancing Mark video! I'll do it!

Count me in!
My MAACA Jean jacket is starting to kick butt!

Even better Mark!

I will take 3 now bish

Quoted from b1buwg97

Even better Mark!

I will take 3 now bish

Seriously?

With cookies mug yes

Quoted from b1buwg97

With cookies mug yes

Find 47 other friends who want them, and I'll make them.  

Quoted from Bish

I have continued to work on the design, and may be well on my way to getting the knight on the horse, which seems to be what everyone really wants.

DiamondDave on CGCC took a photo of the one he's selling, and so far, it's the best I've been able to find for colour and clarity.  The only problem is on the photo he took, the flash obscured the knight's head, plume and collar.

I've asked Dave if he could take a photo with those areas visible.  We'll see what he says.

Here's what the design could look like (yes...I'm aware the knight is still headless)

Please let me know if this is what you want.

Let me know if these are helpful Bish, if you need any more shots just let me know as this is one of my new acquisitions.  

http://www.abpythons.ca/BK/

Quoted from Vengeance

Let me know if these are helpful Bish, if you need any more shots just let me know as this is one of my new acquisitions.  

Thanks!  I need a shot absolutely straight-on in good lighting....otherwise the angle skews the graphic, and makes it difficult to work with.  

The last few shots on your site have the level of detail I need.  If you could get a close-up shot of the knight on the horse too, that might be useful, as I could likely do a better job with the outlines of the figure.

Quoted from Bish

Thanks!  I need a shot absolutely straight-on in good lighting....otherwise the angle skews the graphic, and makes it difficult to work with.  

The last few shots on your site have the level of detail I need.  If you could get a close-up shot of the knight on the horse too, that might be useful, as I could likely do a better job with the outlines of the figure.

I'll take care of it when I get home tonight.

Picture 10 isn't straight on enough for you?

Quoted from Vengeance

I'll take care of it when I get home tonight.

Picture 10 isn't straight on enough for you?

It's close, but it needs to be absolutely straight on, otherwise the graphic is skewed, and won't match up properly without lots of finnessing.
I appreciate your help! Thanks!

Ok, just wanted to make sure I understood, I'll have the pics done tonight.  

I put up some new pics let me know if those are what you need otherwise I can try again.

Quoted from Vengeance

I put up some new pics let me know if those are what you need otherwise I can try again.

Thank you.  I'll check them out!!

Guys...only 1 crest left, unless there's enough interest in me ordering 100.

Quoted from Bish

Guys...only 8 crests left, unless there's enough interest in me ordering 100.

I'll take another one. That's two for me now, thanks.

Bish I am just double checking that you have me on your list for a BK badge correct?

Quoted from Ricker

Bish I am just double checking that you have me on your list for a BK badge correct?

You're on the list.  No worries!

Quoted from Vengeance

I put up some new pics let me know if those are what you need otherwise I can try again.

I'm going to go with pic 10..it still looks like it's the best of the bunch.  I'll try to skew it back with photoshop.
Thanks again for making this material available to me.

Here's the knight with his head finally attached.  I had to make the knight and horse a little darker to match Vengeance's artwork.  (I plan to ask the embroidery company to make the armour silver anyway).

The only problem remains is with embroidery, you're limited to 7 colours (additional colours cost $0.15 each).  There's quite a lot of different colours in the artwork...so either they have to simplify the design, or the cost of the crest will be more.

I'd like some input into which option you prefer...a more simplified design, or a higher cost to cover additional colours.  I think the design has about 13-14 colours in it, so you're likely looking at a $7.50 crest when all is said and done, with the extra colours.  Let me know.



Many thanks to Vengeance for his help in creating this crest.  It really wouldn't have been possible without him  (you have no idea how poor the artwork available on the internet really is!)  In return, I'd like to offer Vengeance a free crest for all of his assistance.  

I like the extra colours. I will pay for the "upgraded crest"

Quoted from Bish

Many thanks to Vengeance for his help in creating this crest.  It really wouldn't have been possible without him  (you have no idea how poor the artwork available on the internet really is!)  In return, I'd like to offer Vengeance a free crest for all of his assistance.  

No thanks needed, happy to help, if you are providing me with a free one, put me down for 2 if there is room on the order.

I also agree that $7.50 is still a reasonable price.

Adam

am I the only one who doesn't see anything Bish is showing?

Quoted from Vengeance

No thanks needed, happy to help, if you are providing me with a free one, put me down for 2 if there is room on the order.

I also agree that $7.50 is still a reasonable price.

Adam

I already had you down for two.....so this would be two+your freebie?

Quoted from Mrhide

am I the only one who doesn't see anything Bish is showing?

Quoted from Bish

I already had you down for two.....so this would be two+your freebie?

Yea sure, if there's room, I know you said you were already fast approaching 50

yep.  looks great.  $7.50 will be fine for the extra colours.  

Quoted from Vengeance

Yea sure, if there's room, I know you said you were already fast approaching 50

I can place an order for more than 50, so it's no problem.

Thanks Bish.

suggestion: remove the text... and the ribbon too while you're at it.

We've been going at this since early August, and the current design seems to appeal to most people now.  

Make an informed choice.  Here are the things to consider:

Although I'm always willing to make adjustments to try and please the majority of people, I'd say this is likely the final version of the crest unless there's suddenly a large number of complaints.

The crest will take 21 days to produce from the point where I approve the embroidery company's artwork.  We're probably looking at the end of September / Early October as a delivery date if I submit the artwork now.  From that time, tack on another week for me to mail them out to everyone (two weeks if you're sending me a cheque).  

Changes to the artwork at this stage will mean further delaying the production of the crest.

The text on the crest comes from the actual game speech.  Black Knight says:

Defend thyself, Knight.
I challenge thee to fight me.
You cannot fight and win.
I will slay you, my enemy.
The BLACK KNIGHT will win again.
The BLACK KNIGHT will slay you.
Fight against me, the BLACK KNIGHT.
I will slay thee, Knight.


Please let me know your thoughts.

thoughts: you have excellent customer service  

...and I'll still buy it with the text and ribbon. the suggestion above was more a personal preference since I really was the first time I saw it.  

anyone?!

Phil:  I wasn't trying to shoot you down...but also realize, it's not possible to please everyone.  At some point you have to say "95% of the people like it, we have to go with it".    Maybe the next design will be more to your liking.

I'll put you down for one crest.

Quoted from Mrhide

thoughts: you have excellent customer service  

...and I'll still buy it with the text and ribbon. the suggestion above was more a personal preference since I really was the first time I saw it.  

anyone?!

Bish is it still possible to order a crest (I think you have your 50 but if there's an additional one out there I'd like one)

Cheers

Squid

Quoted from SquidVicious

Bish is it still possible to order a crest (I think you have your 50 but if there's an additional one out there I'd like one)

Cheers

Squid

No problem.  Consider yourself added.

I got the artwork back from the embroidery company.  They had this to say:

"I know the yellow circle behind the knight is a little blotchy but it will just be a single shade of yellow in the final product."



This will be the first fully embroidered crest I've done.  100% of the area will be stitched.  All of the other crests used a coloured background fabric.

I'm told the end result will be absolutely stunning!!

It should arrive to me by Sept. 25

Hey Bish, do you have me down for one?

Quoted from b1buwg97

Hey Bish, do you have me down for one?

I do...and you've already pre-paid.

Thank you.

There seems to be some confusion...I am ordering more than 50 crests, and will be able to fill all orders...

If you'd still like one, please let me know so I can put your name on the list.

If you're not sure if you've already ordered one or not, you can look at the master list on page 1 of this thread.

P.S.  I've asked the embroidery company to add a 14th colour to the mix...a pale tomato red for the "Black Knight" lettering.  I've also asked for them to reduce the size of the knight/horse just a little.  The horse's head was too close to the banner.

Hi Bish

what's the best way to pay you if I want a crest....

thank's Gino

This crest has just arrived:



Paypal:  iluvpinball@cogeco.ca   (please add 4% to cover PayPal fees!)

Cheque:

Blaine White
266 Charlotte St. #214
Peterborough, Ont.
K9J 2V4

If you are only getting one crest:  $7.50 + $0.56 to mail.

If you are getting two or more crests:  $7.50 each + $1.18 to mail  

If you would like to add a CGCC crest, I can mail them at the same time.  CGCC Crests are $6.50 each.

(Both BK and CGCC are larger crests, and won't fit in a normal size envelope).

Please send me an e-mail or PM with your First name/Last name and complete postal address.

Thank you!

Here is the graphic attached, for those of you who can't see photobucket images at work:

Quoted from Bish

Here is the graphic attached, for those of you who can't see photobucket images at work:

Looks real nice ... !!!!

Glad i order a crap load of these.  can't wait for the next run.....

   oh ya.  good work bish by the way.

Quoted from gorydeath

Glad i order a crap load of these.  can't wait for the next run.....

   oh ya.  good work bish by the way.

Thank you.  I'll try to drop down your crests to the shop tomorrow....

I will paypal you for the BK and CGCC crests plus 4% = $15.79. I believe that you already have my address, if not pm me and I will resend.

I owe for one - how much is that plus delivery?

Quoted from OTTOgd

I owe for one - how much is that plus delivery?

$7.50 + $1.18 postage = $8.68.   Please also PM me your postal address, and I'll get it right out for you.

Thanks!

Thanks Bish, the pict of the crest looks absolutely amazing !

I am sure I will be even more impressed with the real thing,
as I was with your previous crests.

I just Paypal'ed you my payment for one BK crest.

Thanks again!
Regards,
- Sylvain.

See the first page of this thread for an update as to whether I've received your payment, and if your crest has been mailed yet.

Very Nice. Wish I had ordered one now.

I ordered extras, Tom.  Let me know if you want one.

There's still a few stragglers who haven't got in touch with me yet.  Please make arrangements to get your crest, please.

I got my crest in this week, outstanding quality, very happy with it Bish, many thanks!

Amazing crest BISH thanks so much!! What's next ?

According to the poll, the next two will be Haunted House and the Williams Factory Logo / Logotype.

There's still a few people who need to contact me about this...

There's still Black Knight and MAACA crests left over.  I'll have them at this weekend's SB meeting.  Bring exact change, please.

Quoted from Bish

There's still Black Knight and MAACA crests left over.  I'll have them at this weekend's SB meeting.  Bring exact change, please.

How many left, out of curiosity? I might combine more with the HH crests.

Quoted from Sparky

How many left, out of curiosity? I might combine more with the HH crests.

Lots of both MAACA and Black Knight.  I count 33 Black Knights, and I'd guess there's that many MAACA ones left too.

I also have 3 CGCC crests left too.