I was wondering if anyone has put in a pre-order for the re-release of MM or CC offered by the Pinball Factory.  MM is now closed for pre-orders but CC is still available.

A quick Google search on this topic will reveal how much of a scam this is.

MM were supposed to be completed back in 2006  (or something).
...Still nothing as of this date.

People who put down deposits will likely never see their money again,
and this will likely result in the collapse of PBF when class action lawsuits
start pouring in from all over.

Do yourself a favor and keep your money...

Steph

To play devil's advocate.....

People though the same thing for Big Bang Bar.

But... Gene already had all the pieces for assembly.  And he is semi-local.

I can't seen Wayne making them...he seems to busy trying to make money from lawyers and nothing else.

I would not say that Steph. Everytime I contacted them for my order, I have always had a reply the day after (14 hours time zone difference). They have moved once, have had trouble getting all the parts needed for the games and lastly have had trouble with the whitewood and had to send it back.

They have sent automative emails to all there members to say the they will have 20 extra cabinets from there production, and to say that MM will be available in early 2009, they even have the price for those who chose to not put there confidence in them, 9999.00$ U.S..

Quoted from ALJO

I would not say that Steph. Everytime I contacted them for my order, I have always had a reply the day after (14 hours time zone difference). They have moved once, have had trouble getting all the parts needed for the games and lastly have had trouble with the whitewood and had to send it back.

They have sent automative emails to all there members to say the they will have 20 extra cabinets from there production, and to say that MM will be available in early 2009, they even have the price for those who chose to not put there confidence in them, 9999.00$ U.S..

So have they provided any photos, etc.  I might consider pre-ordering a CC but I just want to make sure that the quality is going to be worth it.  I would have loved to pre-order a MM but they had already closed the pre-order list.    I guess I will have to track a MM down at a later date.

Keep on dreaming if you think that Wayne will ever produce a game. If you want a MM or CC, they are around, buy one here in North America. Better to buy what you can see , than what is promised. My two cents on that subject.

Quoted from sensfreak

So have they provided any photos, etc.  I might consider pre-ordering a CC but I just want to make sure that the quality is going to be worth it.  I would have loved to pre-order a MM but they had already closed the pre-order list.    I guess I will have to track a MM down at a later date.

No pictures, but I am confident that the game will arrive somewhere near Spring as I have contacted them many many times (because at one point I thought I got ripped off) and always with an answer, and they know that I am the guy who reproduced a Williams Backglass that they almost sewed. The quality, I am sure, will be worth it, All those delayes were because of quality control, each and everytime, quality was an issue to delay another 8 to 12 weeks.

Can't wait to receive it!

Quoted from ALJO

No pictures, but I am confident that the game will arrive somewhere near Spring as I have contacted them many many times (because at one point I thought I got ripped off) and always with an answer, and they know that I am the guy who reproduced a Williams Backglass that they almost sewed. The quality, I am sure, will be worth it, All those delayes were because of quality control, each and everytime, quality was an issue to delay another 8 to 12 weeks.

Can't wait to receive it!

Quoted to preserve for posterity.

I'll set my alarm for May or June of next year and see where TPF is with this project. They're only 2.5 years behind schedule...  

Claude, I didn't know you were on the MM pre-order list.

I really really hope you eventually get a machine,
but frankly, I think the odds are pretty slim.

I've never dealt with Wayne directly, but I've heard nothing but bad things about him.
He's been promising MM's for YEARS now, and he's still coming up with excuses.
(... and he's got absolutely nothing to prove he's even started the project...)

Personally, I think he spent/wasted/lost the deposit money on MM
and is hoping to recoup some of that with the CC pre-order.

I sincerely hope people who've sent a deposit will not be disappointed,
but at this point, I would consider it reckless to send him any more money
for whatever project he's boasting about.

...but that's just me...



Steph

Quoted from ALJO

Can't wait to receive it!

You didn't read the small prints?  you have to drive and pick it up  

I sent thousands of dollars to a Nigerian prince on the promise that it would eventually pay out. I thought it might be a scam, but they emailed me back two days later saying it wasn't. Phew! That was a close call!

If you put down money on a pre-order, it's a gamble. It might pay off (like for the people who pre-ordered BBB), but with Wayne, who has a pretty bad reputation...

Where's the pics of their factory? Have the even assembled a prototype? Where are the wiring harnesses, people assembling machines? All this risk for a game that's readily available for a similar price anyways? No thank you.