Well, I've been quiet about this up until now.  As many of you know,there was an ad on kijiji recently for an EATPM. I had kept quiet about it on here as I was dealing with him over phone and email and I've learned to keep my dealings to myself as there's a few backstabbers learking about (that's a whole other topic)

Everything was going great, I spoke with him over the phone several times, sent deposit, paid in full as of december 18. Called again, "machine's ready to go", all is looking good.  Well...  It wasn't shipped on monday like it was supposed to be. It wasn't shipped on tuesday.  I said I'd like a refund.  He said "ok, how would you like me to send the refund?".  I said an EMT was fine.

Hadn't heard from him at all.  I left messages this morning stating that if I didn't receive my money by noon today (est) then I'd have to get the police involved.  Well.. Just got a response (and keep in mind there's been no talk of MAACA before this.. Hell, he acted as though he didn't even know how to turn the damn machine on)

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good morning machine slave.although you are a bit off on your opening statement,i hope i am not too late in writing.i wanted you to get a chance to print this off for sparky or any other one of you maaca idiots.maybe you can fax this copy to the j.edgar hoover wanna b's on my end.let me refresh your memory a bit.there are two very good people here that you,that scum bastard teamatomics and the one and only big co-hort of yours,serge-aka:tartaliag,another goof maaca shithead,ripped off on mr.pinball.does the phantom of the opera ring a bell with the $1000 down payment and that person never heard from you fags again.how about your "mint" barb wire you posted for sale for $1200???does that ring a bell???money order sent and wow,what a surprise,no machine ever arrived.these were people that did not know much about this sport of pinball and you clowns were there like hawks,like you were on the elvira,right greedy bastard???i know your memory does not go back that far,but it is about 2 years.you have to remember fuckface,maaca is not some private club of yours,got it???i have several members that are more than willing to report your scams to alberta.some of you goofs really talk to much to each other thru PM and you don't even realize who is on the other end of that keyboard.i am pretty sure sparky would love to hear what you clowns are up to offsite.as a matter of fact,this email will be posted by a member soon.keep watching.now,let's go back to july of 07.do you remember a guy at your work introducing himself as walter???he drove the grey rental caddilac with alberta plates.you should,as you were outside.you are lucky he did not pummel you right there,you arrogant cunt.don't worry,we know all about you.teamatomics will receive a visit soon aswell.funny,he changed his ebay id and is not visiting maaca anymore.now listen&read very carefully you hypocrite f***.if i ever find out you ripped someone i know off,i will make sure it will never happen again.i realize your other two co-horts are probably going to lay low for a while,but rest assured,eyes are watching.if anyone from alberta tries to buy something from you goofs,you should give me a call and i will do a referance check.haha.by the way,we are not quite squared up yet,if my math is right.send the barb wire pin to alberta and we call off the dogs.here is a little riddle for you goofball.once arnold on t-2 pinball completes all 5 ramp modes,what does he say???????????
hypocrite1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion


hypocrite1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
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Now I have no idea what he's talking about, I've never even owned a Barb Wire (nor would I ever want to), and I barely know Craig, and I've never spoken to Serge in my life

If anyone has any leads on this guy, please PM me.

Needless to say, this whole ordeal has left a sour taste in my mouth.. I'll be finishing up my other pending deals and getting out of the trading game for a while.  I have no desire right now to even bother.. Thanks to all who have been kind with my previous deals.

Word to the wise:  deal locally.

What a story , I hope things straigten up with this guy, maybe Pinsonly or Hardcore or even Teamtonics knows this guy, I doute Craig would have anything to do with this whole story, he's a great guy.

I'd like to think that my comprehension of English is fairly good...
... but I have no idea what the hell this guy is rambling about ...

But if I get the gyst, he's under the assumption that you scammed him
before on some other games and is now trying to get back at you...
Seems like a case of mistaken idendity to me...

As for his reference to "Serge" as being "Tartagliag",
he obviously doesn't know what the hell he's talking about since the last "G"
in that user name stands for Giuseppe/Gus
... who the hell is Serge... ?

This guy seems to have a few gaps in his story...

Sorry to hear about your troubles...

S.

Hmm... odd. First of all, Craig is still on site. He hasn't changed his name at all. And Tartagliag is not really called Serge. And I know Gus enough that he is a stand-up guy.

As for what the guy wrote... email is a legal document. Threatening someone by email is just as bad as doing it to your face... and charges can be pressed.

As for me finding out what people do behind the scenes? To be honest, as long as you don't use MAACA as a vessel to illegal activities, I don't care... what you guys do between yourselves if your business and your business alone.

And I do welcome anyone to report any fraudulent activity. So why does this guy hesitate over 2 years to contact me?


Very odd...


Call the cops. Period. You have a written contract of sale (via email), he got the oney and openly refuses to deliver, and even threatens you. He has no basis to do so. So just call the cops. If he got ripped off by someone 2 years ago and never reported it, his problem. Don't do the same mistake. Just report him.

this guy owes you who ever he is get the cops involved especially with that letter. too many crazies not enough straight jackets.

I offer $300 to anyone in Calgar who can get my money back for me.

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I offer $300 to anyone in Calgar who can get my money back for me.

CALL THE POLICE!! they are the ones that know how to deal with this crap. I wouldn't suggest anyone  be a vigilante.

I have called the police..  And I'm not asking for a vigilante (that would be stupid).  He obviously knows people on the board, maybe someone can talk some sense into him.

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this guy owes you who ever he is get the cops involved especially with that letter. too many crazies not enough straight jackets.

I agree. I don't know how these deals become such a three ring circus.

1. I would see whether or not Alberta is just a red herring. We have very few guys from out there on the forum.

2. It sounds like a case of mistaken identity as Steph mentioned or this guys is a first rate B.S.er and is trying to run a good offense in order to knock down your defense regardless of how inaccurate his comments may be.

3. Look at the message. There are a handful of these A holes around. The WWW is global but this lower case text and bad punctuation is the way I was responded to before on an inquiry into a fake TAF advertised in T.O.  I would not be surprised if this guy is not where he says he is. If you can get an IP address you know where to start looking.

I *have* called the police, a few times in fact.  I'll be seeing them at the precinct shortly

He's definitely in calgary, his bank info and phone number all link to calgary.  Either that, or he's very good at covering his tracks

It's amazing how the rhetoric from these scammers always sounds the same, it's like they are a schizophrenic brotherhood, convinced that they are in the right and that you are in the wrong.  Maybe that's how they live with themselves.  Or maybe it's the lead/mercury/antimony in the solder...

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It's amazing how the rhetoric from these scammers always sounds the same, it's like they are a schizophrenic brotherhood, convinced that they are in the right and that you are in the wrong.  Maybe that's how they live with themselves.  Or maybe it's the lead/mercury/antimony in the solder...

That  IS  how they live with themselves, I've been married with one of them for 16 years, I'm happy those days are over. And this time I'm not kidding.