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I have a Super Sprint vid that has some artifacts that are not associated with the monitor or the ram and errors do not show up in self-test.

Is there a generic way I can read each IC on the board(s) to find the offender?

Thanks for looking!


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Randy Fromm actually angrily defends a quick 'n' dirty test here: http://groups.google.com/group.....ard#f84c5e7b27d23f76

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This test takes advantage of the fact that integrated circuits belong
to a family of ICs known as TTL or "Transistor, Transistor Logic".
Simply stated, TTL means that the integrated circuits are made of
transistors. When transistors fail, they will usually short circuit
and we can detect the shorted transistor in the IC the same way we
test a regular transistor.

Set your digital multimeter to the "diode test" range. Connect the red
(positive) meter lead to the ground connection of the board. No...
This is not a misprint! In order to read the "junction drop" of the
pin of the IC under test you must ground the positive lead of the
meter.

Use the black meter lead to probe each of the input and output pins of
the IC. You don't even have to know which pins are inputs and which
are outputs. Just probe them all, one at a time. A good input or
output will generally display a normal junction drop reading
(generally between .4 and .9 volt). If the integrated circuit is bad,
the meter will generally display a much lower reading such as .05 or
.1 volt. Sometimes the bad IC will display a much higher reading
instead of the normal junction drop. If the reading is too low or too
high, the bad output pin of the IC will display a reading that is
obviously much different than all of the other pins of all the other
integrated circuit.

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Depends on the IC. I haven't found a shortcut to looking up what the IC does and then probing around where I anticipate there should be a pulse, voltage, ground etc. That only applies to TTL chips and then there is memory etc to deal with.

I wish I had a simple answer.

Another mystery of the solid state gods. Why TF does a generic manufacturer of transistors not follow pinout convention and then when doing so doesn't state WTF is Emitter, Base and Cathode on their wonderful product? Even better the stuff that follows convention is clearly marked but the A-hole that goes off on his own tangent figures being "original" comes at the cost of not clarifying you have done.

I know how to test to find out what the base is, but other than seeing if the transistor is good can't identify the emitter from the collector, so it's a crap shoot for those two. Is there a way to tell which is E and which is C by testing? PNP and NPN?



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I have a Super Sprint vid that has some artifacts that are not associated with the monitor or the ram and errors do not show up in self-test.

Is there a generic way I can read each IC on the board(s) to find the offender?

Thanks for looking!


Even though it passes the self tests I still would suspect the ram or possibly eprom if you have artifacts.

maybe even a bad socket pin?

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