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Don't hold me to it, but my gut reaction would be that this isn't Mr. Anderson's MO.
First time auctioneers should always be treated with care, but if it's a "Pay on pick up" and "No Shipping available, delivery or pick up only" then the risks are more palatable. (And again, not Mr. Anderson's usual MO for eBay - from which he is banned I believe.) |
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! |
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Nevermind, it is likely Mr. Anderson, sorry Enzo. If anyone can find the original source of the images, let us know and we can report a copyright violation to eBay. Here is his response to my request to preview the item:
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Hamilton, ontario is where it can be picked up, and its in storage so its not accessible right now to view. - canadian_liquidator09
More info: http://www.xmission.com/~daina/blacklist.html check out Stephen Anderson aka Mark Uttley at the TOP of the list (or bottom of the food chain if you will). |
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In storage and can't be viewed.... how special is that. |
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In storage and can't be viewed.... how special is that.
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Damn.... I was watching that one. I also initially thought 'scam' but the whole 'pay when you pick it up' made me think it just might be legit. Unless his plan was really to mug me... now that's a different MO altogether. (Mind you, I am a Jedi Tae-Kwon-Do Master, so I'd break his neck) |
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Damn.... I was watching that one. I also initially thought 'scam' but the whole 'pay when you pick it up' made me think it just might be legit. Unless his plan was really to mug me... now that's a different MO altogether. (Mind you, I am a Jedi Tae-Kwon-Do Master, so I'd break his neck)
I'd bet in this case you'd get an actual machine, but it wouldn't be nearly as "mint" as his auction states.. and he'd force you to take it anyway or he'd leave neg. feedback (or break your arms, who knows) |
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Notice how he says that 'you have to arrange shipping'. My guess is that he'd hope someone would do that, then pocket the money and give a bogus address. If you said you were coming to pick it up, he'd disappear. |
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Some RGP talk about the auction, probably not a the type of scam we thought. Update: Here's another. I don't think it's a scam, just someone who is a bit too generous with his item description. Buyer beware though! |
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I was looking at that Genie playfield... but when I saw the 0 feedback rating, I passed. |
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anybody here buy any of the 4 items this seller had for sale? i dont understand why seller states will ship 50k around guelph area when seller replied to me that machine was in hamilton area?? then when i asked if pictures were his he stated why would they not be? SOOOOO, i state to seller that if i win the auction, i will be bring the auction pics to be sure they are those! THEN the mess hits the fan with his replies....verbally pissed off and states that i am being reported to Ebay and i was blocked from bidding......for what i dont know,just asking proper buyer questons...............i hope it is a local buy and maybe we can lend a few hands with the pickup! |
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anybody here buy any of the 4 items this seller had for sale? i dont understand why seller states will ship 50k around guelph area when seller replied to me that machine was in hamilton area?? then when i asked if pictures were his he stated why would they not be? SOOOOO, i state to seller that if i win the auction, i will be bring the auction pics to be sure they are those! THEN the mess hits the fan with his replies....verbally pissed off and states that i am being reported to Ebay and i was blocked from bidding......for what i dont know,just asking proper buyer questons...............i hope it is a local buy and maybe we can lend a few hands with the pickup!
That's the Anderson MO alright, although I am sure there is more than one crazy out there selling pinball machines (or scamming poor collectors). |
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Update, all of the canadian liquidator's auctions have been pulled. They must have suspected it to be Anderson (wasn't me who tipped them off). I hope the first winner gets warned as well. |
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i didnt realize they were pulled?? did he put up more? because they all (4) finished... |
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There was at least one still active not more than an hour ago, but then they all got pulled. |
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More info: http://www.xmission.com/~daina/blacklist.html check out Stephen Anderson aka Mark Uttley at the TOP of the list (or bottom of the food chain if you will).
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...........personnally i dont care WHO he is OR anything else!..never met subject OR want to, from ALL the mess here....just trying to keep all informed from responses back to me!
notice 1st feedback from eight ball is from buyer from U.S.? how could he leave positive feedback that FAST? i cant wait to see where this goes! |
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MAybe I'm confused, the original 4 auctions did complete, but perhaps I was looking at a 5th that was pulled? |
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I posted on RGP on this yesterday. The thing that is fishy to me is that the seller states CLEARLY that he would cancel all bids from bidders with a zero feedback rating, and actually cancelled one bid from a guy with a rating of one... but take a close look at all the bids on the auctions... ALL the "runner-up" bidders who jacked up the price were bidders with... zero feedback. These auctions have SHILL written all over them. |
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I have sent a message to the winner of the Jacks Open. We'll see if he can shed some light on the situation. |
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