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Interesting thread: http://groups.google.ca/group/.....dc8/a837fa11efced1d710. Viper Night Driving (7.1) 1998 Sega 10. Nascar (7.1) 2005 Stern 10. Street fighter 2 (7.1) 1993 Gottlieb 9. Sharkey's shootout (7.1) 2000 stern 8. Star Wars Episode 1 (7.1) 1999 Williams 7. Terminator 3 (7.1) Stern 2003 6. Gilligan's Island (7.0) Bally 1991 5. Popeye (6.9) Bally 1994 4. Mario Andretti (6.9) Gottlieb 1995 3. Star Wars trilogy (6.8 ) Sega 1997 2. Indiana Jones (6.8 ) Stern 2008 1. Batman (6.7 ranking) Data East 1991 Worst game rating |
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Terminator 3 was a pretty decent pin, i owned one and liked it.
There is an annoying quote at the start of the ball "shoot here, and here..." but other than that, pretty decent. Not a game i would put on a top-10 worst of all time, imo. |
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Some of those games are not that bad-
I think that is more a list of peoples personal hates.
If it were realy a list of the worst games it would be a list of 10 Gottlieb games |
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Some of those games are not that bad-
I think that is more a list of peoples personal hates.
No, it is just based on the lowest IPDB scores ... which really isn't a fair as there are definitely a number of crappy/heavily biased reviews sitewide; too high and too low.
If it were realy a list of the worst games it would be a list of 10 Gottlieb games
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The list doesn't include Cue Ball Wizard so it has to be flawed. Easily the worst DMD ever....
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The list doesn't include Cue Ball Wizard so it has to be flawed. Easily the worst DMD ever....
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The list doesn't include Cue Ball Wizard so it has to be flawed. Easily the worst DMD ever....
True. But it is in a class of its own. "You sure need that ramp shot. Go for the ramp! Get dat ramp! You sure need that ramp shot ..." |
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I like Cue ball wizard, I tried it and I love it. I don't like DMD pins in general.
But I see that Nascar is there, the worst pin I ever play. |
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I usually disagree with the ratings on ipdb ratings, now I don't even look at them anymore.  What one guy disn't like one guy loves......."you sure need that ramp shot" I find a pretty good game,better than...   |
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Austin Powers should definitely be there. I've played lots of machines but that was the absolute worst. I had to force myself to finish a game. |
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I think IPDB has a significant influence on selling prices. So, a few really low scores can pull a machine down the rank. On the other hand it is possible that a few people might log ratings under different names and help boost a rank if it suits their purpose. I alway laugh when people on Craigslist or Kijiji say "rated 7.9/10 on IPDB, see link:"
Best way to rate a machine: Play it!
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 I like Austin Powers, can't help but laugh every time. Isn't LOTR just a remake of it?  |
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I have to agree that that Viper Night Drivin belongs in the worst category and anyone owning one should get rid of it. What a crap game. If I had a match i'd pay the postage and mail it to you. Better yet, I'll buy it off you and do it myself.. please pm me. booo sega...boooooo (pm me) |
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I haven't played many, but here are some I didn't like:
Roller Coaster Tycoon
NBA Fastbreak
Super Mario Bros
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When new, I heard CV was discounted like WOF. The price I heard in 1997 was $2700. Who would have known. |
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Interesting thread: http://groups.google.ca/group/.....dc8/a837fa11efced1d710. Viper Night Driving (7.1) 1998 Sega 10. Nascar (7.1) 2005 Stern 10. Street fighter 2 (7.1) 1993 Gottlieb 9. Sharkey's shootout (7.1) 2000 stern 8. Star Wars Episode 1 (7.1) 1999 Williams 7. Terminator 3 (7.1) Stern 2003 6. Gilligan's Island (7.0) Bally 1991 5. Popeye (6.9) Bally 1994 4. Mario Andretti (6.9) Gottlieb 1995 3. Star Wars trilogy (6.8 ) Sega 1997 2. Indiana Jones (6.8 ) Stern 2008 1. Batman (6.7 ranking) Data East 1991 Worst game rating
This list is kinda crap. There are some games on there that I think are fun. Of course there are some games on there that deserve it. I had a chance to play Batman at another MAACA members house recently and I thought it was fun. |
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Cirqus Voltaire (and even more on this one...)
It's all personal taste. CV IMHO is one of the greatest games out there. Personally after all of the stuff I played TZ still remains number 1 with me and people tend to avoid it during competition like the plague. To each thier own. All I know is from the games I have had there are certain ones I go back to more often than others without any real thought about why other than I just want to play the game. CV is one of them that gets a lot of play. Main thing is throw the list in the trash and buy what you think your going to like. Maybe the list has some influence on what others would pay for a title but if your buying at fair prices who cares what the list says. |
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UMMMMMM..........SWE1 is not a Dmd |
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Hmmm, I had both Gilligan's Island and Cirqus Voltaire... I still have Gilligan!! Dave |
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Monster Bash Prefer Pounded Playfield!
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When new, I heard CV was discounted like WOF. The price I heard in 1967 was $2700.
That was a fortune in 1967!! |
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South Park needs to be in any list of awful pins |
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I do not see Junkyard on this list!!
Everyone has pins that they did not like, but in the end we should be thankful there are as many titles as there are. Different pins for different folks, to each their own. |
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Why anyone cares about these lists is beyond me, play what you like, what anyone else has to say about a machine shouldn't matter as long as YOU like it.
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Why anyone cares about these lists is beyond me, play what you like, what anyone else has to say about a machine shouldn't matter as long as YOU like it.
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It's called conversation.
No it's not if anything it's called a b**** fest everyone bitching about what's on the list and what's not on the list. The list is pointless it should have no actual bearing on games you enjoy or don't enjoy and only represents other peoples opinion on a machine. Pinball is such a personalized experience that is impossible to get any kind of actual idea of what games are considered the best and which are the worst. |
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No it's not if anything it's called a b**** fest everyone bitching about what's on the list and what's not on the list. The list is pointless it should have no actual bearing on games you enjoy or don't enjoy and only represents other peoples opinion on a machine. Pinball is such a personalized experience that is impossible to get any kind of actual idea of what games are considered the best and which are the worst.
By that argument we shouldn't discuss anything other than technical issues here. If we follow your logic, no one should ever discuss what movies/books/tv shows they like/dislike or why. We don't have to agree on the machines we like or dislike, but we can discuss it. Why? Because it's fun. If you don't want to share your opinions, or hear other people's opinions then don't bother to read threads like this. |
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The list isn't about petty likes or dislikes ... it is fact! The people have spoken (IPDB) and the majority have chosen DE Batman as the worst DMD ... EVER!
Adam, if you own this pin then I am sorry for publishing this scientific pinball data. I'll give you $300 for it to ease your pain and avoid any more embarrassment. Don't thank me, just take comfort knowing we're a big Pinball Family™ that supports one another. |
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At one point i thought about doing a batman conversion of an EM, it would fit with the 70's theme (I'd use the Adam West tv show for inspiration)
Decided against it....
Someone did it. I remember seeing pictures from some collector with all the batman games, including an EM with the 1960's TV show. I just can't remember where I saw them now. |
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My list-
1996-04 Barb Wire
1996-08 Brooks & Dunn
1994-04 Bullseye Premier SS
1992-10 Cue Ball Wizard
1995-06 Frank Thomas' Big Hurt
1994-10 Freddy: a Nightmare on Elm Street
1993-11 Gladiators
1995-12 Mario Andretti
1992-03 Operation: Thunder
1994-05 Rescue 911
1995-02 Shaq Attaq
1995-03 Stargate
1993-03 Street Fighter II
1995-10 Strikes 'N Spares
1992-04 Super Mario Bros.
1993-05 Tee'd Off
1995-10 Waterworld
1993-10 Wipe Out
1994-02 World Challenge Soccer
I believe I can safely say this without ever having played some of these!!!!!!!!
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I haven't played Brooks & Dunn or Frank Thomas' Big Hurt.
It has nothing to do with being open minded and everything to do with personal experience.
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| Sparky |
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I haven't played Brooks & Dunn or Frank Thomas' Big Hurt.
It has nothing to do with being open minded and everything to do with personal experience.
I firmly doubt you would have played Brooks & Dunn... it was never completed. |
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