Beware guys... The pics given are not of 1 but 2 different machines. As stated by Sylvain, the machine is once beside a Playboy, then beside a Fathom... but look VERY closely... the drop targets are not the same from one pic to the next. On the playfield closeup, the first multiplier target is a white one with the ''explosion'' on it. On another, it is a black target with a monster head on it (can't seem to remember from what machine that is...).

I wouldn't touch that auction with a ten-foot pole.

Sorry, Crazy, I mis-understood your post. I thought that you thought it was Wade, I missed Web-Sherpa's post!
I guess I have to read other posts before I reply to the one right above my reply...ha.ha.

Anyway, I'd agree with Sparky ( which is why I started this thread in the first place ), looks kinda - well - shady. As I've also mentioned before, if you can see the game in person, there is no reason why you shouldn't buy it if you want it. I know Gorydeath, for one, has had no trouble with who I think this seller is.

That's the trick - can you see it before you buy it - and is it THE game in the photo OR is it a picture of another game that's been sold before...

i only put the early bids on.  then said screw it and went to see batman.  well worth the money.

One wonders if it would be meddling to warn the purchaser to be aware of whom he might be dealing with.

piss this a hole off and pm him.  Ask him to see the machine for a cash deal.  At least waste his time.

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I may be eccentric, or I may not.    Man. You guys collect a lot of junk!  Be careful, thats how I got started in this business, in 1968. YIKES! Maybe should have put all that energy into brain surgery or something important like that. Just for your info, the first games I ever bought were, Kings and Queens, and Central Park. I installed them at the Sattelite drive inn, in Clarkson just east of Southdown road. The building is still there. I paid 325 and 350 for them and they were the only pinballs around on location and I filed out the .10 cent slots so a quarter would pass through. The games took in almost 300 a week for years.  That is also the building and the two machines that started Ontario Hydro inspections and those large isolation transformers being installed in the games. Sorry about that. If I didnt have a 2 prong extension cord coming from the basement through the floor up an out side window and across a ceiling and down the other side, we may never have had the transfomer issues and the inspctions. Thats the orange stickers for hydro that you see on the games today.  Gee sorry about that. .

   OK so is this what you meen by  eccentric.

  Have fun  Wade

Quoted from Wade

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I may be eccentric, or I may not.    Man. You guys collect a lot of junk!  Be careful, thats how I got started in this business, in 1968. YIKES! Maybe should have put all that energy into brain surgery or something important like that. Just for your info, the first games I ever bought were, Kings and Queens, and Central Park. I installed them at the Sattelite drive inn, in Clarkson just east of Southdown road. The building is still there. I paid 325 and 350 for them and they were the only pinballs around on location and I filed out the .10 cent slots so a quarter would pass through. The games took in almost 300 a week for years.  That is also the building and the two machines that started Ontario Hydro inspections and those large isolation transformers being installed in the games. Sorry about that. If I didnt have a 2 prong extension cord coming from the basement through the floor up an out side window and across a ceiling and down the other side, we may never have had the transfomer issues and the inspctions. Thats the orange stickers for hydro that you see on the games today.  Gee sorry about that. .

   OK so is this what you meen by  eccentric.

  Have fun  Wade

So why exactly did Ontario Hydro want isolation transformers in pinballs?

Quoted from Wade

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I. I installed them at the Sattelite drive inn, in Clarkson just east of Southdown road. The building is still there. .

   OK so is this what you meen by  eccentric.

  Have fun  Wade

I think the building is set to be torn down and a condo or something like that is going up in its place

Quoted from Monkeybug

So why exactly did Ontario Hydro want isolation transformers in pinballs?

To protect the players and users against accidental electrocution, when:
- an electrical fault would be present in the game, and
- when the ground prong is cut or not used on the AC supply.

By adding an additional hydro isolation transformer in pinball machines at the time,
it removes the above electrocution risk (from the outside metal parts of the machine),
even if no ground prong is there on the AC plug.


Taken from Wikipedia, under 'Isolation transformer':
'isolation transformer is a 1:1 power transformer which is used as a safety precaution.
Since the neutral wire of an outlet is directly connected to ground, grounded objects
near the device under test (desk, lamp, concrete floor, oscilloscope ground lead, etc.)
may be at a hazardous potential difference with respect to that device.
By using an isolation transformer, the bonding is eliminated, and the shock hazard
is entirely contained within the device.'


Cheers,
- Sylvain.

Quoted from sylvain

To protect the players and users against accidental electrocution, when:
- when the ground prong is cut or not used on the AC supply.

By adding an additional hydro isolation transformer in pinball machines at the time,
it removes the above electrocution risk (from the outside metal parts of the machine),
even if no ground prong is there on the AC plug.

I could crack a joke and say that only Ontarians are crazy enough to cut the ground prong off... but then again, most machines in Quebec have the same problem. Difference I guess is that our government doesn't care if we zap ourselves.

By the way, this Flash Gordon eBay listing has been removed a while ago...

My T2 is missing the grounding prong, should I worry? It was imported from Alabama, so doesn't have an isolation transformer.