Quoted from The Loafer

Wow, I guess that's a real business for you then!  I'm just playing for the fun times myself

Competition is the driving force behind pretty much everything I do in this hobby.  

Quoted from Vengeance

The only way you are allowed to compete is via the points system, so I'm just trying to ensure I get invited, points opportunities in the local area are few and far between so if I can possibly get a decent number of points within a 5 hour drive it makes it worth the trip.  

I sense Adam thinks the points are free for the taking in the OPL league       all he has to do is drive up and collect them  

I can't defend the points too well, its upto medvet & tinyrodent!

Quoted from Tuborg

I sense Adam thinks the points are free for the taking in the OPL league       all he has to do is drive up and collect them  

I can't defend the points too well, its upto medvet & tinyrodent!

Not true at all, I don't take anything for granted.  Like I said points in a local area are limited.  The only points opportunities in Toronto are TOPL and COTSB, but the Church points are so little it's hard to accumulate anything at all and TOPL points are only given out 3 times a year so there is alot of dead time when there are other tournaments going on in the US that I can't make.  Both are only 25 points total over the entire year where as since there are so many other tournaments run in the US that are all separate it's 25 points each tournament.  

The only stuff available in a reasonable driving distance are where you can get decent points are:

Michigan Pinball Open - once a year
PAPA - Once a year
Rochester Game room show - didn't happen his year
Niagara Pinball Show - First time this year
Canadian Pinball Championship - Second time

So if OPL becomes another reasonably close opportunity to get some points, why wouldn't you expect people who are actively trying to rank themselves in the world to make the trip to try and add to their overall total?

Just bugging you Adam.  I watched you play ST:TNG and you kick my butt.   Seeing Brett, Duane & Kirsten play, I realize I'm not a good player at all.   I basically try to keep the ball alive compared to these guys.   Funny, like say owning a guitar and not knowing how to play it, I have this odd feeling with TZ now after watching these guys playing it, I realizing how fun it could be.

They did say my TZ plays hard - so gotta lower the angle a bit...

Nothing wrong with having a try at more points. That being said, I'm pretty sure Ottawa has some skills to bring to the table  

Just not me in particular.

Quoted from Tuborg

How do you get WPR points?  

Kirsten (the German guy) had a neat points system - sounded very "German" and precise.   If I understand the basics, it was you:

• a selection of machines - say 4 machines
  
• get to play 2-3 games on a machine and take the best score.
  
• some math normalization on the scores to give each player a ranking from 1..100.   Top ranking wins.
  

I'm sure I missed some details, I did like the idea of more than 1 game as one some of the earlier machine you need 2-3 games to find your "lucky" game.    

I like our OPL system though - simple and easy to understand for now.   So I'm just more curious about how WPR points are awarded.

I guess its all here in the FAQs (more reading to do instead of work...)
http://www.pinballrankings.com/

Hi Doug,
you get it right. This is valid for the group I'm playing in. Generally each group can decide there own system of getting a ranking over the year in there group. Once a year we are playing a final, over last years it happened between April and May. For the final the best 3 of each group is allowed to go to the final. There is an exception for the group from Munich, because they have 3 times the player then other groups and can send 5 (if I remember correct). The playsystem/rules for the final are decided by the one who makes the final possible. In Germany it is not commercial!
The WPR points are only possible in this tournament, not over the year!

From the IFPA it is allowed to do once a year a closed tournament with WPR points, this is the final we do.

I just searched for some English description, but couldn't find one. Maybe some can read the German stuff, then this should be interesting:
http://www.pinball-heaven.de/spieleabende.htm
Marco, the owner of the side, wrote a nice software for tournaments that are using the swiss system adopted for pinball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_system_tournament). I think this is not the right place to write about pinball point systems  

Hope I could clarify the WPR points.

Quoted from kia

From the IFPA it is allowed to do once a year a closed tournament with WPR points, this is the final we do.

I think that may be a translation issue because as far as I know you are not allowed at all to have a closed tournament and still receive WPR points.  That is the reason why the PAPA B and C division aren't eligible for WPR points.  

Quoted from Vengeance

I think that may be a translation issue because as far as I know you are not allowed at all to have a closed tournament and still receive WPR points.  That is the reason why the PAPA B and C division aren't eligible for WPR points.  

I just re-checked the stuff with closed tournaments. Since this year, at least in Germany it is possible.
Reference: http://www.pinballz.net/thread.php?threadid=8587&hilight=geschlossenen+Turnieren

Marco (nick: spyhunter) is the responsible person in Germany to order that the closed tournament gets WPR points.

I can't read that cause it's in German I'll try and convert it with Google tomorrow to see if I can read it.

But the only instance I know of where you can close a tournament and still receive points is on a Country level.  As an example. the Canadian Pinball Championship was closed to Canadians only so only Canadians were allowed to participate but you were still able to receive WPR points.  I can only assume that maybe this would be the same thing but it would possibly be a German championship or something where only Germans would be allowed to partake.  But I can't see how any small local tournament would be allowed to close their tournament and still get points when PAPA the worlds largest tournament in the World can't get points for their B and C division, which I would argue holds more talent in those two divisions that any local league or tournament could ever hope to get.  

Quoted from Vengeance

So if OPL becomes another reasonably close opportunity to get some points, why wouldn't you expect people who are actively trying to rank themselves in the world to make the trip to try and add to their overall total?

For this reason I vote we keep OPL out of the "World Rankings"....I've been having a great time playing in our little league, with our MAACA members, who are just there to have fun.
Getting all fussy about rules/points really drains the fun out of pinball in my opinion.....

Quoted from Hippochrome

For this reason I vote we keep OPL out of the "World Rankings"....I've been having a great time playing in our little league, with our MAACA members, who are just there to have fun.
Getting all fussy about rules/points really drains the fun out of pinball in my opinion.....

And we'll do the points thing as long as they don't interfere with the fun. If people start to get anal about points and procedure we'll scrap them. We're not committed to anything.

Quoted from Hippochrome

For this reason I vote we keep OPL out of the "World Rankings"....I've been having a great time playing in our little league, with our MAACA members, who are just there to have fun.
Getting all fussy about rules/points really drains the fun out of pinball in my opinion.....

I'll have to order a titl-bob for TZ, too!