I still prefer my F14 over IM, sorry. Faster, more fun, one trick pony, but fun getting there, and great light show. IM has bored me everytime I have been to SB lately, and I haven't touched it the last two times I was there at all. I don't like all their useless toys, the make most games look, to me, like they are trying to attract a very young croud.
I'll agree to that! I'd take an F-14 over an IM any day. IM = frustrating snooze fest.
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-The Getaway: High Speed II!! -Spider-Man -F-14 Tomcat -Guns N' Roses -Lord of the Rings -Twilight Zone
-Medieval Madness! -Indiana Jones (Williams) -Star Trek: The Next Generation -Champion Pub -Terminator 3 -Congo -Johnny Mnemonic -Tales of the Arabian Nights
It doesnt matter which one you buy......All Lawlor games are the same......BORING
I have owned TZ, TAF,TAFG, NGG, ES, RBION and Monopoly and I find that all Lawlor games have a similar feel and same basic layout. Sure the toys change and so does the theme, but they all feel similar to me and for a reason I cannot define, I quickly loose interest when playing this pins. Glad to hear i am not the only one that feels that way.
It has been scientifically proven that light is faster than sound. That is why some people seem brilliant........until they open their mouth!
Again, in everything I have read, and in a lot of the IPDB reviews of either, there are always comparisons, as they have been changing #1 and #2 position in the rankings for a while now, and it seems to be the more common debate.
Bally The Addams Family Bally Twilight Zone Williams F-14 Tomcat Williams Firepower Williams Demolition Man Williams Terminator 2 Williams Big Guns (non-working project)
I like to keep a Steve Ritchie game next to a Lawlor one just to mix things up.
I like keep my Neyens next to my Trudeaus but prefer to keep my Ritchie separated by a Krynski. A Fernendez or Norris is an acceptable temporary general buffer pin. But now I need a Joos.
http://www.pinballowners.com/ottogd Pins: Congo - High Speed - Cue Ball Wizard - Spirit - Eye of the Tiger - Quintette - Spectrum - Guys Dolls - Catacomb - Road Kings - Police Force - Cyclone - TX-Sector Vids: Asteroids - Centipede - Galaga - Joust - Ms Pacman - Super Sprint - Atari Cocktail (60-in-1) - Vectrex EM shooter: Midway Gang Busters EM Pitch & Bat: Upper Deck Slot: IGT 'M' Progressive ('86)
I like to keep a Steve Ritchie game next to a Lawlor one just to mix things up.
Huh? Mix things up??
OK...
I own a Harry Williams game, 2 George Christian games, a Barry Oursler/Joe Kaminkow game, a Jim Patla game, a Ward Pemberton game and a Larry Hutcherson game.
No Ritchie or Lawlor games here.
... actually, there is a BK2K at home, but I just work on it. I don't personally like it at all.
I appreciate your opinion, they have good games, but I would definitely say the best WPC games are far greater then the best Stern has put out.
And I appreciate your opinion. At the end of the day, we clearly have different opinions. There is no middle ground. For me, F-14 is one of the worst System 11s. Not the worst, that would be Millionaire, but certainly F-14 is at the bottom. I've owned a couple and don't miss them. In my opinion, TAF is a fairly basic pin. It's decent, but not great -- to me. I understand why TAF sold so well. The theme is excellent and the game is pretty straight forward. Even a newbie, like I was back when it came out, can have a decent game on it.
I also think Stern games are as good and, in some cases, better than the best Williams produced. This is from a player's perspective. I'm looking at the rules as opposed to the artwork -- although I would say there are a few great looking Stern games as well.
The rules are just incredible on many of Stern games and this makes for an incredible home game.
I would also add there are some real deals in the used market. Thanks to folks that don't give the games a chance, you can buy a HUO Ripleys or T3 cheap and both are fantastic games. I picked up a HUO T3 for less than $2,500 CDN everything in. I love the game. Many don't like the look of the playfield and cabinet -- I agree they are pretty basic and actually don't really like the playfield look, but the game is so FAST and FUN!
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