Quoted from Vengeance

If you are able to keep your ball in play it's because you're getting lucky not because you are a better player.  

That is total BS.

If that's true, why is it that when I play classic pins against people who don't normally play pinball, I always manage to do significantly better? Experience, practice and skill play a role in pinball. Classic or not. Period. If that wasn't the case, how would Roger Sharpe have been able to convince New York City Council in 1976 to lift the ban on pinball in the city by proving that pinball is a game of skill and not chance?

Quoted from cooke

That is total BS.

If that's true, why is it that when I play classic pins against people who don't normally play pinball, I always manage to do significantly better? Experience, practice and skill play a role in pinball. Classic or not. Period. If that wasn't the case, how would Roger Sharpe have been able to convince New York City Council in 1976 to lift the ban on pinball in the city by proving that pinball is a game of skill and not chance?

Do you even read what I write before you run your mouth Corey

Quoted from Vengeance

Skill of course still plays a factor, better players are still going to play better regardless of the game.

My point is there is a much better chance that you'll be beaten on your older games by someone who doesn't normally play pinball on an older classic game then there is a chance I'd be beaten on a newer game.

Another example, I bet on classics games if you and I were to play the win/lose ratio between the two of us would be reasonably close.  But on a modern game would be much more unbalanced.  Reason being there are less random elements that affect a players ability to control the ball in modern games thus better testing the players ability to keep things in control rather then leaving it to chance based on the machine.  

Quoted from Vengeance

Do you even read what I write before you run your mouth Corey

No fair... you posted your last message while I was typing mine.