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First of all can we buy a Hyperpin, or we can just build it?
What's the big difference between an Ultrapin and a Hyperpin?
If we can only build it...What are the parts you need to do it?
How do upload all of the 150 games on it?
How much does a project like this cost?
I'd like to have one.
Info on this would be greatly appreciated.
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WTB more space!!!! anyone got some for sale?
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Hey Claude!


Depending on how many parts you have laying around, you're probably looking at 2k-ish.


as much as i hate to reccomend other forums, Hyperpin/Hyperspin forums have lots of info on custom builds.


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Hey Claude!


Depending on how many parts you have laying around, you're probably looking at 2k-ish.


as much as i hate to reccomend other forums, Hyperpin/Hyperspin forums have lots of info on custom builds.


I saw your thread axe....looks like a cool project, but I'm not good enough in electronics to do this.
I know I'll have to take an old cabinet and put an LCD screen in it, but after doing this, I would'nt know what the hell I've got to do....
What computer have I got to put in it?
how do I program the computer?
What kind of buttons (flipper) do I use? Where do I connect them on the computer?
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Lots and lots of examples and walkthroughs on the hyperspin forums (cabinet forum has a lot of examples in it)  But it all depends on how nice of a performance you want.  You could pay $6000 for an official ultrapin with a few tables, or you could spend less than half that, and build a nice one, that would play sooo many more tables.

All up to you though.


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Claude,

C'est visual pinball et vpinmame qui on rallumé "ma flamme" pour les pinball.  J'ai aidé "un peu beaucoup" et mon site de backglass vient de ca.... c'est-à-dire que je prennais BEAUCOUP de photos pour toutes sortes de tables et en prennant les photos des playfields pour les games, j'ai developpé un intérêt pour l'art des backglass. Avant ce forum, j'étais dans le top du vpforums.com (maintenant vpforums.org)...même que j'ai déjà reçu l'auteur de vpinmame chez nous

BREF... à cause de ca je me suis acheté une premiere pinball ... deux... trois (tu connais la suite)... et même si je continue d'y aller tout les jours, j'y participe moins et j'y joue moins, parce qu'une fois que ta la vrai, ce n'est qu'une simulation.   Ultrapin / hyperpin est évidemment quelqu'un qui a essayé de vendre ce que toute une communauté à bati pendant des années. Ca m'a écoeurer un peu mais finalement, le gars a releaser les améliorations qu'il a fait parce qu'il en a pas vendu des tonnes et la COMMUNAUTÉ continue d'ajouter des tables...mais ce n'est toujours qu'une simulation! la flamme est vraiment pour les vrai machines

Tu n'a pas besoin d'acheter ultrapin pour jouer!! toutes (ET des centaines d'autres) les tables sont disponibles gratuitement sur irpinball.org, vpforums.org et pinballnirvana.com   J'imagine que tu connais right?


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Excellent poste Phil mais juste une petite correction. Hyperpin n'est qu'un front end pour Visual Pinball et Future Pinball pour les tables configurer format "full screen" ou "16-9".  Le programmeur de HyperPin n'a aucun lien avec la création de ces virtual pins et surtout avec Ultrapin.

A par ça, I agree 100%.  C'est vrai que video pinball (ce qu'est VP et FP) ne touchera probablement jamais the real thing!  Mais vous savez, that's ok!  VP9 a au moins augmenter le niveau de "fun" au point ou que moi-même, j'aimerais bien vouloir m'en crée un.  Même si ce n'est pas pareil, c'est quand même un jeu l'fun!
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Tu n'a pas besoin d'acheter ultrapin pour jouer!! toutes (ET des centaines d'autres) les tables sont disponibles gratuitement sur irpinball.org, vpforums.org et pinballnirvana.com   J'imagine que tu connais right?




Non, je ne connait pas.
Dans mon cas, j'ai eu des vraie pins avant de connaitre les "video pinball".
Mais je suis tenter pour des raisons d'espaces et pour avoir des centaine de pinball sur une, avec une grosse écran grandeur réel, meme si c'est comme les vraie.
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And this one...Roger Sharp's son.....
http://groups.google.com/group.....pin#db2e1dec6c648247




                                                                       
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Or this one...
http://groups.google.com/group.....pin#7688db577c7bc2b4


I think I can find one for 3000$ with 150 tables or so.




                                                                       
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If I understand correctly, the Ultrapin's can't be upgraded to the many videopins we've started to see all over the place (those that have 150 tables), at least not without a lot of hassle. I might be getting confused with anotehr Vpin but from what I understand, the ultrapin's can only be upgraded via games that come with some kind of a dongle, and then we're talking about 12 more tables for a total of 24, or something like that.  Most of these 150 tables pins are all custom made, either via using the body of an existing pin or via upcoming shell kits (I thought I read Mameroom is considering selling some, though there's nothing available yet). Just keep in mind, if you go this route, you should consider getting the screen first, to ensure it fits in.

At the Hyperspin boards, there's a fellow canadian that I think has offered to make people a vpin (I think the user name is Rawd I believe, go to HyperSpin's website and search for his posts to confirm - I'm at work and can't access the site to confirm).  No idea where he lives but however you look at it, it's not cheap to put something like this together, pending the size of the screen and the "finishing" touches that make it look good. Absolutely no idea what his price is, or if you'd consider it fair.  I know with any custom work not done by ourselves, it usually costs an arm and a leg...
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If I understand correctly, the Ultrapin's can't be upgraded to the many videopins we've started to see all over the place (those that have 150 tables), at least not without a lot of hassle. I might be getting confused with anotehr Vpin but from what I understand, the ultrapin's can only be upgraded via games that come with some kind of a dongle, and then we're talking about 12 more tables for a total of 24, or something like that.  Most of these 150 tables pins are all custom made, either via using the body of an existing pin or via upcoming shell kits (I thought I read Mameroom is considering selling some, though there's nothing available yet). Just keep in mind, if you go this route, you should consider getting the screen first, to ensure it fits in.

At the Hyperspin boards, there's a fellow canadian that I think has offered to make people a vpin (I think the user name is Rawd I believe, go to HyperSpin's website and search for his posts to confirm - I'm at work and can't access the site to confirm).  No idea where he lives but however you look at it, it's not cheap to put something like this together, pending the size of the screen and the "finishing" touches that make it look good. Absolutely no idea what his price is, or if you'd consider it fair.  I know with any custom work not done by ourselves, it usually costs an arm and a leg...



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At the Hyperspin boards, there's a fellow canadian that I think has offered to make people a vpin (I think the user name is Rawd I believe, go to HyperSpin's website and search for his posts to confirm - I'm at work and can't access the site to confirm).  No idea where he lives but however you look at it, it's not cheap to put something like this together, pending the size of the screen and the "finishing" touches that make it look good. Absolutely no idea what his price is, or if you'd consider it fair.  I know with any custom work not done by ourselves, it usually costs an arm and a leg...


I contacted the guy (Rawd).
He can make me the cabinet with everything in it, including the computer but he says that he cannot load the tables and sell them, it's illegal.
I could get him make me the Hyperpin, but I would need someone to help me load up the tables.
Can someone do this for me? I'll pay anyone who's willing to help me on this.
I know nothing about doing this...
PM me.
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I contacted the guy (Rawd).
He can make me the cabinet with everything in it, including the computer but he says that he cannot load the tables and sell them, it's illegal.
I could get him make me the Hyperpin, but I would need someone to help me load up the tables.
Can someone do this for me? I'll pay anyone who's willing to help me on this.
I know nothing about doing this...
PM me.
Thanks.
Claude.



Hey Claude, I don't see why he couldn't build it for himself and decide he doesn't want it and sell it to you, no different than selling a MAME... is it?

Dave


Here are games I would like to acquire this year, or sometime...

24
Iron Man
Attack From Mars  Prefer Pounded playfield!
Monster Bash       Prefer Pounded Playfield!
Elvis
Sopranos
Batman Forever
Spider-Man  Stern  Prefer Pounded Playfield!

Have these available for trade or possible sale:
Corvette  
South Park            
Theatre of Magic
Twilight Zone
RFM/SW:EP1 Nucore Combo
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There are legalities when it comes to roms that I appreciate why Rawd would prefer not getting into.
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Pis Claude, t'en est rendu où avec ton Ultrapin ????
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Pis Claude, t'en est rendu où avec ton Ultrapin ????


J'vais attendre encore un peu....
Il y a un gars du U.S. qui va me la faire et un membre MAACA qui va me la programer.
ca devrait me couter environs 5000$, et je devrait avoir environs 250 tables, toute des tables Williams, Bally et d'autre deja existante....




                                                                       
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Did he tell you what  the cost would be  to build you one?? Maybe a we can get a few members together and have him build a few and get a price break




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I am sure there is a talented cabinet maker in our midst (I can think of at least one in particular) who might take on a mass order.

What you'd need is a plan that includes a well layed out plan for all the parts hardware, cabinet materials and software (not including ROMs) including the electronic plunger and other IO gear.  I've traded emails with nanotechent's president recently, he seems like the kind who would be up for a group purchase, and electronics (LCD screens) and cabinet decals (aka vehicle wrap) are not difficult to source.

With an oranizer and say at least 6 committed purchasers, we could go ahead with a group project ala "Big Bang Bar" - so long as people are willing to pre-pay.

Budgetting and finding committed purchasers is the first order of business.  How much would you be willing to spend on a quality Hyperspin/Future Pinball cabinet? $2,000, $3,000, $5,000?


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Be careful with pre building cabinets, less you have problems getting the LCD to fit in afterwards. Many who've built them have stated "it's important to first know your LCD dimensions".  It's becoming a lesser problem because many are now decasing the LCD (which if I ever get going on this, is what I will do) but just keep this in mind.
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Sounds interesting...


Ten SS games...but 8 is my limit!
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Sounds interesting...


Yes very interesting !!!
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Be careful with pre building cabinets, less you have problems getting the LCD to fit in afterwards. Many who've built them have stated "it's important to first know your LCD dimensions".  It's becoming a lesser problem because many are now decasing the LCD (which if I ever get going on this, is what I will do) but just keep this in mind.


The whole point to the exercise woudl be to plan, plan, plan and preconfigure and produce detailed construction drafts with a known supply of monitors that work ahead of time. You wouldn't pre-build cabinets and sell tehm without either (including the monitor) or have directions and sources for an existing model that people could obtain, modify and mount properly - unless you were to over-engineer and then create bezels for differeing models.


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Coincidentally, I JUST received my nanotech entertainment Pinball Wizard Mot-ion adapter and plunger kit.  Comes with optical (or motion sensing) plunger, motion sensing control board, wiring harness (for flippers, plunger and other buttons), a sata cable for connecting the plunger and a USB cable for connecting to the computer, and instructions.  I'll have to pre-test it soon as there is a 90 day return policy.  But it looks well put together, and eliminates the need for monkeying with any other kind controller and motion sensing for sensing tilts (up / down, left / right).

What I don't get, looking at the tiny board is how it senses cabinet movement, however the instructions clearly indicate the orientation of the board to the cabinet floor, and the harness contain no hook-ups to tilt sensors. I thought maybe the tilt sensor is in the plunger, but nothing in the docs woudl indicate that.


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What I don't get, looking at the tiny board is how it senses cabinet movement, however the instructions clearly indicate the orientation of the board to the cabinet floor, and the harness contain no hook-ups to tilt sensors. I thought maybe the tilt sensor is in the plunger, but nothing in the docs woudl indicate that.


Sensors are now all on chips with different specs 2-axis, 3-axis, hi-G, low-G, etc.   Here's one surfing the http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/ADIS16220.pdf
http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/colibrys/1-sensors.jpg

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Accelerometers are no longer a bubble/or ball in a tube. The iPhone is probably the most common device so many of us own that has one.


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I am sure there is a talented cabinet maker in our midst (I can think of at least one in particular) who might take on a mass order.

What you'd need is a plan that includes a well layed out plan for all the parts hardware, cabinet materials and software (not including ROMs) including the electronic plunger and other IO gear.  I've traded emails with nanotechent's president recently, he seems like the kind who would be up for a group purchase, and electronics (LCD screens) and cabinet decals (aka vehicle wrap) are not difficult to source.

With an oranizer and say at least 6 committed purchasers, we could go ahead with a group project ala "Big Bang Bar" - so long as people are willing to pre-pay.

Budgetting and finding committed purchasers is the first order of business.  How much would you be willing to spend on a quality Hyperspin/Future Pinball cabinet? $2,000, $3,000, $5,000?


I dont know if your willing to spearhead this up Wayne, but if you are just tell me where to sign up




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Did he tell you what  the cost would be  to build you one?? Maybe a we can get a few members together and have him build a few and get a price break


He mentioned   at least 4500$.....




                                                                       
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I'd love to build one myself but no time. Sign me up.


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