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Yes, six and nine are not the target age - although sixes do watch.


My boys ages 2 and 4 watch that show alot.

Do the kids have australian accents?

Wonder Pets are the new 2010 devil. lol





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Why do we need new shows for really young kids? It's not like they're "bored" of the old shows, they're new to the world. If a show is a hit for 2 year olds 20 years ago, why not today?


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Why do we need new shows for really young kids? It's not like they're "bored" of the old shows, they're new to the world. If a show is a hit for 2 year olds 20 years ago, why not today?


It's called "economy" and "commerce" ... the "New and Improved" syndrome started by the soap and cereal industries to mass consumers.  Think of it as trying to figure out new ways to sell more of the same old thing (crappy children's tv, rendered pig fat, and grain waste products) to consumers so they don't feel "stuck in the past."

Me, I like Red River cereal and wash my hair with gravel.  But then I'm an odd sort of bloke.  (But I actually did like Wonder Pets, at least there's meaningful dialogue ... isn't it getting long in the tooth yet?)


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It's called "economy" and "commerce" ... the "New and Improved" syndrome started by the soap and cereal industries to mass consumers.  Think of it as trying to figure out new ways to sell more of the same old thing (crappy children's tv, rendered pig fat, and grain waste products) to consumers so they don't feel "stuck in the past."

Me, I like Red River cereal and wash my hair with gravel.  But then I'm an odd sort of bloke.  (But I actually did like Wonder Pets, at least there's meaningful dialogue ... isn't it getting long in the tooth yet?)


I understand that, but children don't have a concept of "new", do they? They haven't experienced the old yet. The whole world is new to them. Makes you wonder who the show's are designed for, the children or the parents.


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Makes you wonder who the show's are designed for, the children or the parents.


Partly both, parents control what is watched, and the advertisements that are shown supposedly influence buying decisions, whether directly to the parent watching along with the child (we almost always watched shows with our boys under 4 years old), or indirectly via the child "I want, I want, I want!"    

The Producers of children's television mistakenly believe they are "doing good" - and I suppose by chance they are (if nothing they are entertaining and teaching media studies...), but shows are really made by the Networks, and Networks sell shows to advertisers.... so whatever McDonalds thinks is a good children's program - gets aired.


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All too easy my friend, all too easy....    


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Partly both, parents control what is watched, and the advertisements that are shown supposedly influence buying decisions, whether directly to the parent watching along with the child (we almost always watched shows with our boys under 4 years old), or indirectly via the child "I want, I want, I want!"    

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Google the word PVR.  It does wonders and even can eliminate commercials!      My kids always wonder why they can't skip commercials at their grandparent's houses (or pause the feed).
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Google the word PVR.  It does wonders and even can eliminate commercials!      My kids always wonder why they can't skip commercials at their grandparent's houses (or pause the feed).


Actually, we're on HTPC now, just finished testing OTA (~ 20 channels from Waterdown), weaned down our Cable to basic ... so we're well on our way.  Love the PVR function of Windows Media Center, and we have a stack of Star Trek episodes (from all season) on the HD waiting to be watched.....      

I do find, however, that as much as I love PVR, my family hasn't quite got used tot he concept yet, and would rather surf to see what's on at the moment, than pick and choose what they want to watch from the future listings.... I'm still trying to show them the beauty of commercial skipping. They're still learning, one day....  (PS: I love PVRing movies, get to watch stuff I just wouldn't rent otherwise.)


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I wonder if Donnie has filled that position yet?  WOnderful entry level into the biz.  I'll bet one call to Ryerson's Student employment center would have candidates lined up, if for nothing other than a summer position.


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