Quoted from Sparky

And TOPL meetings don't? Aren't the meetings done at people's houses for the most part?

Nope, there is not a single TOPL location limited by attendance.  We used to have one location that limited attendance to 12 but that was before WPR points and we don't go there anymore.

Also we also allow non league members to participate in the playoffs which is where the lion share of the points are given out.

The other items in OPL could be overlooked if the playoffs was open to everyone and anyone, but it's not.  

I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the rules IFPA has set in place.  

Feel free to email Josh yourself and ask him:

ifpapinball@gmail.com

He is the definitive answer on if you are eligible or not

Quoted from Vengeance

I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the rules IFPA has set in place.  

Feel free to email Josh yourself and ask him:

ifpapinball@gmail.com

He is the definitive answer on if you are eligible or not

Thanks, that's what I was gonna ask next: "Who decides?" Email sent! (I CC'd our leader Brett)

AFAIK, we never limited to 'members'. I don't even know what a member is. There's no sign up sheet or fee. As for limited space, that seems outright silly to me. This means that small towns (or even cities like Montreal or Ottawa) without a Church of Silverball cannot participate. The things like the point system are totally negotiable, we just settled on it because it was easiest to start with for our first season. I'd be willing to change it if it meant we could get IFPA recognized. I suppose other people would be willing to go along with it too.

The main sticking point I think would be the playoffs, I know it was a requirment for TOPL in order to get WPR ranking points was that the playoffs was 100% open to anyone that wanted to participate, member or not.

Quoted from Vengeance

The main sticking point I think would be the playoffs, I know it was a requirment for TOPL in order to get WPR ranking points was that the playoffs was 100% open to anyone that wanted to participate, member or not.

I don't think that's a big deal. So when you guys do 'playoffs', what does that mean if you don't have a cutoff?

It basically means that if 100 people decide to show up we would have to accomodate all of them.  

We can't limit entry into the playoffs if we want to receive points for it

Quoted from jonny_eh

I don't think that's a big deal. So when you guys do 'playoffs', what does that mean if you don't have a cutoff?

That's ridiculous, where could you go other than PBHoF or the Church to accommodate that many people?!

Quoted from jonny_eh

That's ridiculous, where could you go other than PBHoF or the Church to accommodate that many people?!

It's an example more then anything, the only single pinball Tournament that gets 100 people is the PAPA C division and that doesn't even get WPR points because it is a C division and the C division is not considered an Open division.

But if you try and limit the tournament you can't call it an open tournament because it's not.  Are you going to get 100 people at the OPL finals, no, but if you get 20 people you would need to accomodate all of them.

As an example, at your previous final I though about making the trip for the finals because I like playing in tournaments and figured if there was a cash prize of even $100 it would be fun to play anyway, but you limited it to OPL members only so I didn't even bother to plan to attend.

If you start getting WPR points for your tournaments, I'll be making the trip for sure.  

But you sitll havent't answered my other question, why do you even care?  You've said a number of times your not a competitive league, so why do you want points?

Just to get this topic back on track a little bit

Todd didn't qualify :/

Eden Qualified but went out in the second round :/

Oh well, always next year I always say, good try by both Canadians, not that they will ever read this anyway