Quoted from gmaranda

Yeap, I am starting this thread for everyone of us that aspire to one day be green!  I believe we should simply use this one so that we can increase our count without making anyone angry.  So, go ahead increase your count............I know I will

Quoted from AMX

A l'age que t'es rendu, t'arrivera jamais a etre vert pis en vie!!

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Quoted from MAGNETO

hay, A blank page doesn't count!  

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Quoted from redketchup

Luc you were a lot far behind me and now a lot closer, your thread with pascal seem working...  My only ambition was to change color, now I,m purple and happy!

Quoted from MAGNETO

yes!! but I lost my Saterday night.....so whats to gain??  

Quoted from gmaranda

+1

Quoted from tiger_31

Vous êtes obsedé ..........................


+1

Quoted from tiger_31

Vous êtes obsedé ..........................


+1

Quoted from Azatotht

Dont make me hit the "reset posts count" button !

Quoted from Sparky

And congrats Gilles. You are top poster for 24 hours. Enjoy. I know I am, since I get just as many PMs about thread reports and people stating that it is a waste of time to post garbage like that.

Quoted from Sparky

Now stop posting these stupid F#@*#@# useless goddamn posts for which people click on, thinking it is actually about something interesting but instead just ends up wasting people's time.

Quoted from Steph

I thought this would be a constructive post  on energy conservation
(...something I'm actually interested in...),
but instead I wasted my time on this crap.

Quoted from jonny_eh

If you're bored, just start a vs thread like:"Which is better: Getaway or T2?"

Quoted from websherpa

Getaway.  And pizza with tomatoes, perperoni and blue cheese. I like turtles too.  And Geckos.  

Quoted from MAGNETO

oh well...... Next Saterday night it`ll  be boring as hell again here probably watch tv or something..

I must say it was one OF the best Saterday nights on Maaca for me and many others........

Quoted from MAGNETO

oh well...... Next Saterday night it`ll  be boring as hell again here probably watch tv or something..

I must say it was one OF the best Saterday nights on Maaca for me and many others........

Quoted from jonny_eh

This pizza thing annoys me too. It's original purpose was to point out that lots of people like different things, got it. Now it's used whenever there's a flame war. I don't get it.

Quoted from DavidC

qui a parti ...

Quoted from Menace

Ive been a member here for a LONG time, and I can probably count the number of PM's I've sent Ian on 2 hands...


D

Quoted from websherpa

I think it's called "changing the subject" or "grand thread hijack"  

Quoted from Sparky

Opinions?

Quoted from gmaranda

wow, this is amazing! I started this thread on something useless and guess what..............it still is!  Someone gave me enough posts to last two lifetimes and I got a good laugh at it. Look at my posts per day.......  I am still laughing.

tks to whomever did it, it is neat.

Oh! I forgot, I like pizza too

Quoted from gmaranda

We are running out of gas faster than people think thus we need to get this thing going.

Quoted from Vengeance

Hopefully Johnny_eh will chime in here on the validity of peak oil as I'm sure his skeptic group has discussed that topic before.

Personally I don't think any of us will be around to see the world run dry of oil.

Quoted from Vengeance

Hopefully Johnny_eh will chime in here on the validity of peak oil as I'm sure his skeptic group has discussed that topic before.

Personally I don't think any of us will be around to see the world run dry of oil.

Quoted from Vengeance

Hopefully Johnny_eh will chime in here on the validity of peak oil as I'm sure his skeptic group has discussed that topic before.

Personally I don't think any of us will be around to see the world run dry of oil.

Quoted from websherpa

Has the Ontario government got past their moritorium on electric cards being road worthy yet?  I think it had something to do with not being able to acheive highway speeds or something like that.  There was an Ontario or Quebec manufacturer that has sold electric cars to Europe (maybe even elsewhere in Canada and the US) but they can't sell them right here in les deux belle provinces.    Or is that les deux provinces qui sont belles?

Quoted from gmaranda

Ok! then just for the sake of argument it is not as bad as I think.......it is nonetheless a finite amount and will therefore run out one day. You and I may not see it but it will happen and we may as well be ready.

Quoted from jonny_eh

Peak oil debunked itself last year when the price of oil crashed.

When people make claims about the future the most you can say is "sure, let's see". No one knows for sure. My guess is that as oil gradually becomes more and more expensive, alternatives will become more attractive. Right now they're more expensive than oil/gas, but as the alternatives get cheaper and gas gets more expensive, people will switch. But that would cause demand in gas to fall, which would lower its price, so this will be a long drawn out transition.

Quoted from websherpa

Has the Ontario government got past their moritorium on electric cards being road worthy yet?  I think it had something to do with not being able to acheive highway speeds or something like that.  There was an Ontario or Quebec manufacturer that has sold electric cars to Europe (maybe even elsewhere in Canada and the US) but they can't sell them right here in les deux belle provinces.    Or is that les deux provinces qui sont belles?

Quoted from jonny_eh

You can easily buy this, if you have the cash: http://www.teslamotors.com/roadster

Quoted from Sparky

It is not accepted in Canada yet as Tesla refuses to hand over a number of cars to the Canadian government for safety testing.

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Ditching your gas guzzler is a great way to reduce your carbon footprint, but if you really want to do something about global warming, get a used car. You’ll be putting less carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

As Matt Power notes in this month’s issue of Wired, hybrids get great gas mileage but it takes 113 million BTUs of energy to make a Toyota Prius. Because there are about 113,000 BTUs of energy in a gallon of gasoline, the Prius has consumed the equivalent of 1,000 gallons of gasoline before it reaches the showroom. Think of it as a carbon debt — one you won’t pay off until the Prius has turned over 46,000 miles or so.

There’s an easy way to avoid that debt — buy a used car. The debt has already been paid. But not just any used car will do.

It has to be something fuel efficient. Like, say, a 1998 Toyota Tercel that gets 27 mpg city / 35 mpg highway miles. The Prius will have to go 100,000 miles to achieve the same carbon savings as the 10-year-old Tercel. Get behind the wheel of a 1994 Geo Metro XFi, which matches the Prius’ 46 mpg, and the Prius would never close the carbon gap, Power writes.

There are a lot of used cars out there that top 30 mpg, and more than a few that reach into the 40s. Just about any Ford Festiva or Aspire will deliver 33 mpg. The mid-’90s Mazda Proteges are good for 30 mpg or so, as are the Dodge Colts of the early ’90s.

Go back a little further and the Honda CRX HF models will give you 39 to 45 mpg in a sporty two-seater that’s fun to drive. If you don’t mind driving the cheapest of cheap econoboxes, the 1985 Chevrolet Chevette got 36 mpg and the ‘87 Chevrolet Sprint got 40.

You may laugh, but these cars are becoming big sellers. USA Today says fuel-misers from the early 1990s are selling like crazy and prices have gone up 30 percent in the past few months. A rust-bucket Geo Metro with 175,000 on the odometer recently sold for three grand on eBay.

Of course, it can be tough finding a car that old that hasn’t been beaten like a drum, and Robyn Eckard of Kelley Blue Book tells us most used car buyers prefer something no more than 5 to 7 years old and with fewer than 100K on the odometer. No problem.

The auto industry has spent much of the past decade cranking out SUVs, but it has managed to offer a few highly efficient cars as well. The Toyota Echo delivers 30 mpg or better, as does the Honda Civic. The Chevrolet Prizm and Mini Cooper come close. Volkswagen’s diesels are good for mileage in the low 30s.

We’ve undoubtedly left some off the list. But the point is, you don’t need to buy a Prius — or any other hybrid, for that matter — to get great fuel economy and minimize your carbon footprint. You might feel better driving a hybrid, but you won’t necessarily be greener.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2008/05/the-ultimate-pr/#ixzz0yrmYjCz2

Quoted from OTTOgd

I think buying used is the more 'green' solution.



Adam may not have bought the most fuel conscious used vehicle ... but who cares? A V8 truck kicks a**! Wahhhooooeeee!

Quoted from jonny_eh

Remember the 3 R's: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Works for cars too!

Quoted from Vengeance

Personally I don't think any of us will be around to see the world run dry of oil.

Quoted from machine.slave

Definitely not in our lifetime, no.  In fact I'd imagine we'd see a synthetic fuel before we really see electric cars become the norm.

You definitely wouldn't make the trip to Expo in an electric-only car.  

Quoted from OTTOgd

I think buying used is the more 'green' solution.

Quoted from TwilightZone

Totally agree with you. And would add "Using an existing vehicle as long as possible". Alot of pollution is created for every new car that comes off the assembly. I have read that resources would be better allocated to keeping existing and well maintained vehicles on the road longer as it results in a smaller environmental footprint. Of course, that wouldn't feed the economy, so Business/Gov't encouraged consumers to get new vehicles through deep discounts.

Duane

Quoted from Sparky

... Actually, I would love an old Beetle with some new features... like a heater. ...

Quoted from OTTOgd

Mine actually has a factory upgraded gasoline heater installed. However, it only had one setting: hot! I drove though many a winter quite comfortably in that old girl. Drove great in the snow and for making donuts.  

Quoted from Splitskull

Ian.. do you fit in a yaris? lol

Quoted from Sparky

And the reason it is used today as a rusty prop is?

Quoted from OTTOgd

My appreciation grew over the years and I met a VW enthusiast, Klaus, who towed it away to his shed about 9 years ago and haven't had the heart to get rid of it despite paying him rent all this time. I hopeful that I'll get to drive it again.

Quoted from wbradley

There are quicker cars for the buck for sure, but if it can't be a Challenger with a Hemi might as well get all the technology. Kinda like an Apple car (said sarcastically).

Quoted from wbradley

I am considering a Prius when my lease comes up in a year. It actually averages 5L/100km which is 1/2 my V6 Accord's consumption.

But the kicker here is I can get it with everything I have in the Accord PLUS a technologhy package that has more gizmos than you can shake a stick at. Yes, I agree the self parking feature is kinda dumb. But the distance sensing cruise control makes a lot of sense and the solar panel in the sunroof keeps the car cool when it is off. That is impressive.

There are quicker cars for the buck for sure, but if it can't be a Challenger with a Hemi might as well get all the technology. Kinda like an Apple car (said sarcastically).