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Fair enough, but when reality seems to diverge from theory, there's something wrong. Either there's a misperception of a reality, or there's a flaw in the theory. Considering how well established these scientific theories are, I'm going to assume misperception for now. Occam's Razor, and all.


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Young pup, you have much to learn in this world.  

Just for the record I trained in electronics in High School and obtained an Honours standing in Physics and Chemistry, spent 2 years at UBC studying physics,  did a smack of reality altering drugs - which we'll refer here to as a course in metaphysics, got a degree in Film and Photography (ok, that's irrelevant, but its what happens when you do a smack of drugs), and am working through a George Brown Electronics Technician course (Go GB! Yay!).

I'm thoroughly open to the suggestion that the power of suggestion is powerful.  But in the end, if you know anything about metaphysics; human reality, so mediated by the apparatus we possess, is really only what 2 or more people agree on at any one time, the rest is illusion - so Enzo and I are right, in our world.

Also for the record, there are several inaccuracies in your arguments above, including that a 10 year old CD will play the same (DACs vary in their accuracy, and sampling method, and use algorythms to fill in when they either can't read information (due to scratches or oxidation) or aren't fast enough to keep up with the music being reproduced - by their very definition digital is always a compressed media), or that it contains as much recorded information as an analogue vinyl record or that humans can't sense harmonic sound above 20,000Hz and below 20Hz (in the form of dissonance, harmonics and interference) regardless of the ability of their cochlear cilia (I was also a Biology Honours student).  You are also forgetting about the science of harmonics which is usually strictly limited in digital media.


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But in the end, if you know anything about metaphysics; human reality, so mediated by the apparatus we possess, is really only what 2 or more people agree on at any one time, the rest is illusion - so Enzo and I are right, in our world.


You've gone too Deepak Chopra for me now  

Oh, and one more thing. What makes you think music recording even have all this wonderful infrasonic and ultrasonic information? Do people also think the music studios are using super special hand made cables like you are using? Garbage in, garbage out.

When I've done recordings in a studio, there was a ton of noise on the recording that we had to clean up in post. I admit it was a crappy studio, but there's no such thing as a perfect studio, and I bet audiophiles would recoil in shock that recording studios are made for less money than what they spend on their home equipment.


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When I've done recordings in a studio, there was a ton of noise on the recording that we had to clean up in post. I admit it was a crappy studio, but there's no such thing as a perfect studio, and I bet audiophiles would recoil in shock that recording studios are made for less money than what they spend on their home equipment.



actually, some artists strive for that classic reel-to-reel recording sound.. and then, ironically, have it digitally mastered     


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This post is clogging up my "Most Recent Top 10 posts" search with something that has gone off topic.

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Monster Cable Sucks, Doug is right.  (Back on topic.)


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Monster cables suck monstrously! I use tin cans with string, works fine!


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I think you also have to make the difference  between Digital and Analog signals. Analog signals can and will receive any interference and transmit it to the device using it. Digital is information based so  its the information that i used and not the signal itself. Only if the signal is weak will it cause issues and that can happen  with faulty cables. But that is faulty cables and not crappy cables.

for instance, Computer store 40$ patch cable vs 1$ Dollarama patch cable. I see no difference in speed with my downloads.


Of course your result is only as good as your output devices (TV or Speakers).
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