Just went over to take a look and getting an error that the group doesn't exist

so I'm not alone seeing that !!      I'm sure it will be back but man ... COLD TURKEY!  ARRG!!

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but don't worry, it's USENET.. you can't delete it !

Same thing. I searched manually and Recreation - Games is there, but no pinball. Something has changed.

That's so weird man! I expect us to get a lot more members now.

I just checked my ISP provided newsgroup service, and it still exists there. It looks like Google dropped support for it for some reason, which REALLY sucks! Did someone upload some kiddie pr0n to it?

Guys

It's just google. I use Outlook Express to read RGP and it's still going strong.

ME

Quoted from medvet

Guys

It's just google. I use Outlook Express to read RGP and it's still going strong.

ME

Most people use google for it though. And their search tool is priceless! (It goes back decades) It also provides an RSS feed that I can read at work.

Google stopped updating RGP yesterday at about 3:15. You could still view all of the posts made previous to 3:15, but no new messages were being displayed. It then went offline completely this morning. I suspect this is just a google glitch and it will be back up soon. RGVAC is still there, so it's not usenet-wide.

Quoted from medvet

Guys

It's just google. I use Outlook Express to read RGP and it's still going strong.

ME

A vet teaching techies about USENET, priceless & impressive...

Rogers dropped it's Usenet access in 2005.

My bill never went down. Nor did they give me a break when they started throttling my account.

Assholes.

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Rogers dropped it's Usenet access in 2005.

My bill never went down. Nor did they give me a break when they started throttling my account.

Assholes.

just buy an Iphone ... you'll get a lot for your money !!  



NOT!

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Rogers dropped it's Usenet access in 2005.

My bill never went down. Nor did they give me a break when they started throttling my account.

Assholes.

and that's precicely when I switched over to teksavvy.com. Never had a problem since. $35 gives me a highspeed DSL line, a static IP and newsgroups (with bins), no headaches, and actual people to talk to when you call the offices! Best of all, none of my money goes to Rogers!

Quoted from cheg

...Best of all, none of my money goes to Rogers!

No. But it goes to Bell, which is almost as bad.

Duopoly. Gross.

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Rogers dropped it's Usenet access in 2005.

Pissed the hell out of me too.

But since I don't have DSL access on my street, cable was my only high-speed option.

"Luckily" another cable HS provider started-up (3web),
and although their support SUCKS, the service is cheaper ( $34/mo),
faster (7D/1U) and has no throttling.

As for UseNet access, I had to subscribe to a News reader  (  http://www.teranews.com/  )
for a one-time of $3.95 .

Rogers does suck...

Steph

Quoted from cheg

and that's precicely when I switched over to teksavvy.com. Never had a problem since. $35 gives me a highspeed DSL line, a static IP and newsgroups (with bins), no headaches, and actual people to talk to when you call the offices! Best of all, none of my money goes to Rogers!

Same, teksavvy rocks! And they weren't throttled until Bell started to do it. Now Bell is being pursued by the CRTC to prove that the throttling was technically necessary, which it probably wasn't. We'll see how it turns out.

Quoted Text

"Luckily" another cable HS provider started-up (3web),
and although their support SUCKS, the service is cheaper ( $34/mo),
faster (7D/1U) and has no throttling.

Really? I heard that they were just reselling Rogers service, and was throttled.

Quoted from cheg

and that's precicely when I switched over to teksavvy.com. Never had a problem since. $35 gives me a highspeed DSL line, a static IP and newsgroups (with bins), no headaches, and actual people to talk to when you call the offices! Best of all, none of my money goes to Rogers!

Well I just checked and their residential highspeed DSL is 40$, + 6$ for a static IP. And of course you also need to get their modem.  

Mike

Quoted from Steph

As for UseNet access, I had to subscribe to a News reader  (  http://www.teranews.com/  )
for a one-time of $3.95 .

Rogers does suck...

Steph

Yeah I was using Astraweb for awhile, but again I was paying on top for it and then there was the bandwidth "shaping" issues with Rogers.

When I signed on it was "unlimited"... apparently "shaping" is a good way to say we aren't throttling you to nothing and ripping your a** off.

Quoted from MrMikeman

Well I just checked and their residential highspeed DSL is 40$, + 6$ for a static IP. And of course you also need to get their modem.  

Mike

That's odd, I have unlimited DSL with them (and a static IP) for $36 per month. Maybe they raised their rates, and grandfathered people who signed up a while ago? Their support though is exceptional. I've never been put on hold! Two rings and "Hello, how can I help you?" But I haven't needed support from them in a while so it may be different now.

And BTW, you don't need to buy their modem, any DSL modem will do (one that is compatible with Bell, so anything bought in Canada). I bought mine on ebay for $20.

Quoted from jonny_eh

Really? I heard that they were just reselling Rogers service, and was throttled.

Nope.

They share the physical cable infrastructure [wires] to the end-point (house) only.

The "use to" borrow all of Rogers' infrastructure a few years ago,
but they now have their own CO's (central switching offices) and network routers.

The address mapping is done on the Modem's MAC address
so it never gets to Rogers' servers , and thus subject to any bandwidth restrictions.

..or so I'm told...

But my download speed tests always clock out at 6M +

... now if only they offered TV services....  

Steph

If that's true, then I'd gladly switch to them! I'm just scared of dealing with their notorious tech support.

Quoted from MrMikeman

Well I just checked and their residential highspeed DSL is 40$, + 6$ for a static IP. And of course you also need to get their modem.  

Mike

I have the Premium package at a max of 200gig a month. I do a lot of torrent and newsgroup stuff and I have yet to go over my limit. I don't do gaming though...

I get 1/2 off all Rogers services so I an't saying Sh!t  

Quoted from cheg

I have the Premium package at a max of 200gig a month. I do a lot of torrent and newsgroup stuff and I have yet to go over my limit. I don't do gaming though...

I must be on that plan too then, but I do gaming too and haven't been over charged. Also, the static IP is only $4 not $6. And by buying a static IP you get binary newsgroup access (otherwise it's binary-less newsgroup access).

Hey Mike if you ever think of switching I have a modem real Cheap for you.
I have 3 of them

Quoted from MrMikeman

Well I just checked and their residential highspeed DSL is 40$, + 6$ for a static IP. And of course you also need to get their modem.  

Mike

Quoted from Vengeance

I get 1/2 off all Rogers services so I an't saying Sh!t  

It's not even worth that price.

This brings up a sore point for me again. I was kind of over it but the lag I get during peak times for online gaming is just horrible.

The service is crap. I am going shopping for another provider. At this point it's down to very few could do a poorer job, so what do I have to lose.

I dumped Rogers years ago, due to their dubious business practices and went with Bell (the lesser of the two evils it seemed).  But I think it might be time to move on again.

Quoted from Monkeybug

I dumped Rogers years ago, due to their dubious business practices and went with Bell (the lesser of the two evils it seemed).  But I think it might be time to move on again.

Any suggestions for Newmarket and Stouffville?

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Any suggestions for Newmarket and Stouffville?

Nope...surprisingly, I have been a bit busy with other things and have not made the switch.

You can always start here to see whats available:

http://www.broadbandreports.com
http://www.canadianisp.ca/

Let me know what you end up with.

Looks like Rogers has me held ransom for cable here, but DSL is avail.

http://www.canadianisp.ca/cgi-bin/ispsearch.cgi?f=Search&p=ON

I use Roger's for everything: 2 cell phones, TV Cable with HD box rental and programming, Home Phone (with great long distance package) and Hi-Speed Internet and get all of that for less than $200 a month. I used to pay over $70 alone to Bell with their long distance pkg. This is not to say I love there customer service, had many issues with them, but you just cannot beat the price in my area.

Back on topic, someone has set up a temporary google group: http://groups.google.com/group/rgp---pinball/topics

I pay 58$ a month for Videotron's premium high speed, but at least the installer gave me free TV cable with it. He "neglected" to put up the filters on the line after I gave him a couple of beers...  

It's very calm on RGP since the google glitch .. you don't miss anything.

Verry happy with my 10mbits cable connection with Cogeco Cable for 39$, I have access to all newsgroups.

Quoted from kicknhard

It's very calm on RGP since the google glitch .. you don't miss anything.

I guess trolls don't know how to work news readers.

Oh well... there will always be MAACA forums!!!


We now officially rule.




lol... sincerely, I hope RGP goes back up... there is 14 years of valuable info on it.

Quoted from Sparky

lol... sincerely, I hope RGP goes back up... there is 14 years of valuable info on it.

It's up. Just not on Google.

It's all Gary's and Wayne Gillard's fault.  

It's back on google

Mike

Quoted from ethous

Hey Mike if you ever think of switching I have a modem real Cheap for you.
I have 3 of them

Do you have one with wired ports (minimum 3)?  How much combien?

Mike

Modems never have more than one port, unless they're also a router. What you usually want is: modem->router->computers.

Just to correct you they do.
I have the efficient network 6300 has 4 ports and is a router and wireless.
http://images.google.ca/imgres.....1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Quoted from jonny_eh

Modems never have more than one port, unless they're also a router. What you usually want is: modem->router->computers.

Quoted from jonny_eh

Modems never have more than one port, unless they're also a router. What you usually want is: modem->router->computers.

I know how computers/networks work..  

I currently have a modem/router/wireless combo, and a separate router/wireless..  Both support 4 wired ports.  This way is cheaper then getting an 8-port  switch.  I have 6 wired "items" in the house and 5 wireless.  Most routers or modem/router combos only support 4 wired.  Hence, I need a modem/router combo...  

Mike

Quoted from MrMikeman

This way is cheaper then getting an 8-port switch.

Unless the switch is free... I've got a Netgear FS108 which has been sitting in its box for some time, say the word and it's yours.

Thanks for the offer but I also have wiring issues.  The house was wired by the previous owner and I have 2 points where the net cables end and there at opposite ends of the house..  Bottome line is I still need 2 routers because of physical issues.  Also I like to keep the modem as close to the entry point of the phone line (electrical box) to reduce noise issues.

Mike

Quoted from ethous

Just to correct you they do.
I have the efficient network 6300 has 4 ports and is a router and wireless.
http://images.google.ca/imgres.....1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

yup, that's why I said 'unless'.  No correction needed

I'm not a fan of those combo devices. I much prefer the linksys wrt54g router, since they let you install a hacked Linux based firmware with a ton of extra features.

I admit that the combo has the advantage of only using one power socket though.

Exacly and allot less room.
I have the wrt54g I love it but the combo modem was a great deal 15 bucks at a garage sale that supported canser.
Plus it was new in the box never used for a 200$ modem i found it to be a good deal.

Quoted from jonny_eh

yup, that's why I said 'unless'.  No correction needed

I'm not a fan of those combo devices. I much prefer the linksys wrt54g router, since they let you install a hacked Linux based firmware with a ton of extra features.

I admit that the combo has the advantage of only using one power socket though.

Quoted from jonny_eh

I much prefer the linksys wrt54g router, since they let you install a hacked Linux based firmware with a ton of extra features.

Fair Johny, but Linksys didn't really want to this happen - just they were forced to due to the rules of open source software.   Their "loss" our gain.   From wiki:

Quoted Text

The WRT54G is notable for being the first consumer-level network device that had its firmware source code released to satisfy the obligations of the GNU GPL.

If I recall correctly, Linksys fought hard to not have to release the software....