DJ ASHBA?  Wasn't sure of his name but he played very well. IMHO, not sure why he wears a crunched version of Slash's hat though, seemed a bit in poor taste but I assume that's an inside joke on Axl's part.

des moments fort de ce show a Montreal





et la fin du show

Concerning Bach and that wiz kid 19 year old guitarist:  Before he introduced him, I would have sworn they were related (father/son?) as I thought there was quite a resemblance.  But it was never acknowledged so doesn't look like it.

Quoted from jonny_eh

They played a good number of the newer songs that to me are rather forgettable but they also played a ton of their old stuff.

Sorry to take to hi-jack the thread somewhat, but how can you not like the new songs? So many of the songs just rock.

Try giving it a few listens.

The disc opens strong with the first three tracks being absolutely incredible: Chinese Democracy (killer opening riff), Shackler's Revenge, and Better. IRS and Madagascar are great tracks as well. This I Love is a classic "this one is for the ladies" track. Etc. Best of all I can listen to the album with my wife without being embarrassed by the misogyny prevalent in Appetite. If he could stop dropping the occasional F bomb, I could listen to it with the kids in the room -- oh well that's what Kiss is for.

Duane

Shackler's Revenge is the only memorable song on there. The album isn't bad, it's just forgettable. I've hear it a few times, but I still couldn't recall the songs when they played them on stage, with the exception of Shackler's.

I saw them back in '02, while they weren't bad I find it ridiculous that they call any
reincarnation of the last decade Guns and Roses.  As far as the new album I find
it is just plain bad.  This album received no airplay because it stinks not because
the radio industry is trying to black ball them.  

The opening track (I believe) received tons of airplay around here for a short period
of time but fizzled out because of lack of popularity.  I can't think of a single person
who said they like any of the new stuff, and most people I know were big fans back
in the day.  

Quoted from silverball

I can't think of a single person
who said they like any of the new stuff, and most people I know were big fans back
in the day.  

Rolling Stones had a very favourable review:

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/24024297/review/24161281/chinese_democracy

The problem is most folks are "fans in the day" and want it to sound exactly like GnR did. People evolve. 20+ years have come and gone since the initial CD. The disc is outstanding in my opinion. I think it is as good as Use Your Illusion I & II. I found a few tracks on UYI I & II to be filler. On Chinese Democracy, I think every track is valid. Just my opinion and this from someone who remembers first listening to them before they got airplay. My buddy had the CD before I heard one track on radio. Then BAM! They were huge.

Duane

Quoted from The Loafer

DJ ASHBA?  Wasn't sure of his name but he played very well. IMHO, not sure why he wears a crunched version of Slash's hat though, seemed a bit in poor taste but I assume that's an inside joke on Axl's part.

DJ Ashba's one of the most talented guitarists I've seen (having been able to sit and jam with him a couple of times)  He's been wearing that same exact hat for years (since the days of beautiful creatures) so I can assure you it wasn't in bad taste.

He's really pushed back with how he can play for GNR as axl has a tight leash on all of his band,  but I definately suggest listening to some beautiful creatures and sixx am.

I think it would have been better received if they had used
a different name for the band.  I know a lot of bands maintain
the original name even after significant line-up changes but
for my money this isn't Guns and Roses.  

In my opinion Velvet Revolver should have used the name
Guns and Roses (I know legally Axl owns the name).
Then again I prefer Scott Weiland to Axl any day.

And I agree, while I liked the two UYI albums, they could have
put all the good tunes on one album and tossed all the filler.

Quoted from silverball

I think it would have been better received if they had used
a different name for the band.  I know a lot of bands maintain
the original name even after significant line-up changes but
for my money this isn't Guns and Roses.

Like it or lump it, the lead singer is basically the band in most cases. Skid Row isn't the saw without Bach and GnR without Axl is well...Velvet Revolver. Personally, I don't have an issue with the name. I think Chinese Democracy is a very natural evolution from UYI, so makes sense to keep the name. I really enjoy VR, again just wish they would stop using the F bomb to make a point which is often, but otherwise a great band.

Now KISS in make up without Criss and Frehley is a tribute band, but that's another thread

Duane

NIRVANA for the win!!   Would have made an amazing pin theme. Could have played "Drain You" for all the outlanes, "Smells Like MULTIBALL Spirit", or "Something In The Way" drop targets.

Quoted from SoapyMule

NIRVANA for the win!!   Would have made an amazing pin theme. Could have played "Drain You" for all the outlanes, "Smells Like MULTIBALL Spirit", or "Something In The Way" drop targets.

Kurt Cobain can eat a Huge Bag of Wangs in hell.