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I've been thinking of adding an EBD to the line up. I went to see one and it's a bit rougher than expected and I'm wondering what would be a fair offer.

Playfield was mylared and the main area is protected, but it is worn to the wood in several areas. The playfield is absolutely filthy and needs to be cleaned. All rubbers need to be replaced. Several plastics are cracked or broken.

Upon start up, you could play a game, but it kept adding to the score without stopping. I opened the backbox and discovered the soldered battery had started to leak. I removed it and cleaned up the acid with 50/50 water/vinegar solution.

Game is "tired" and needs a refresh. It's basically been in a home for the last 10 years and hasn't been properly maintained.

Inside cab is filthy and head is filthy.

I forgot to look at the displays. I should have looked at those. Let's assume they are ok. If not, what would be the effect on the price?

Backglass is excellent. Cab is solid, but appears be missing a track inside. Minor point.

At the end of the day, what is a fair value for the game?

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No one got an idea on price? I want to be fair to the seller. Appreciate any advice or guidance.

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750 is still a deal

500 would be pushing your "fairness"

put in a new pf and you have a 2k machine


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Sounds to me like there's a real range of "fair" prices here.  Even if none of the displays work, I would not sell this machine for less than $750.  Working 7-digit displays add about $125 - $150 to the price.  If it looks like you saved the MPU in time, and there are no other "hidden" problems, I think paying as much as $1000 is still in "fair" territory.   Personally, I would take a working EBD with a good backglass for a $1000 any day of the week.   The bostonpinball average is $1400 USD, which probably represents decent, working machines.  

At the end of the day, a "fair" price is any price where both of you feel that you got a decent deal.  



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The 2008 book is $1700USD - so depending on how you play the conversion game its either $1700CDN or $1700USD->Cdn+duty/customers -> $2000+CDN....

I find the bostonpinball is on the low-side of prices from a quick look yesterday...

But if the plastics are toast - then seems you'd have to spend dearly for them ($200) and the displays....
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MAkes sense that eBay prices are below book value, just as exchange rates represent the theoretical value of the currency, although you are unable to buy the currency without fees.  

But which one do you trust ?  If a machine has a book value of $1000, but 90& of them sell for $800, then in my opinion, the machine is worth $800.  The book value is also not reflective of sudden shifts in the economy or of cetain times of the year when you can get more ( or less ) than the typical selling price.  

Ask members on this board about the last time someone paid book value.  I don't think it happens very often.

Some dude in Michigan is / was selling off IPB Eight Ball Deluxe playfields for $350.  They were seconds, but still pretty good.

I've got an EBD plastics set for sale if anyone needs one.  $80.



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Thanks for the advice, guys.

Is that plastic set new? I would definitely need a set if I get the game.

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Thanks for the advice, guys.

Is that plastic set new? I would definitely need a set if I get the game.

Cheers,
Duane



Yes, the plastic set is brand new....still has the protective coating on it.  Only thing is it does not come with the key fobs, but does come with the topper and all the extra plastics.  For $80, it's still worth it without the fobs.


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