Did you know that pinball 2000 was assumed to take out 2 other titles?   Wizard Blocks,  Playboy...  

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZcqZwEi5P0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjUSNZ6Abtk

Yeah, they also registered for a game called "Wild Toys". Name registration numbers on the left.

75-618550        WILD TOYS              99/01/05
75-663180        WIZARD BLOCKS       99/06/24

I got to speak with Cameron Silver while @ Expo this year, and we got to talking about other titles the pinball department were brainstorming for P2K at the time WMS pulled the plug.  One of the titles that John, Duncan and Cameron were putting together was a Theatre of Magic 2, and listening to Cameron get excited while talking about some of the things P2K would have allowed them to do made for an excellent story.

(and Playboy P2K was originally slated to be a haunted house type of theme)

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Theatre of Magic 2? Hmmm, that may have actually gotten me to buy a pin2k machine. Too bad the plug got pulled.

Quoted from Menace

(and Playboy P2K was originally slated to be a haunted house type of theme)

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Am I the only one that thinks that a haunted house theme would sell big-time? GTB's HH is still popular today... the horror theme never goes out of style...

Quoted from Grauwulf

Theatre of Magic 2? Hmmm, that may have actually gotten me to buy a pin2k machine.

Never occurred to me before but now i can clearly see how they could improve upon the original.
p2k platform makes it possible to have more than one trunk (albeit virtual).
Multiple trunks  for game play would warm the cockles of even the deepest TOM haters.  

Quoted from Sparky

Am I the only one that thinks that a haunted house theme would sell big-time? GTB's HH is still popular today... the horror theme never goes out of style...

I would agree whole heartedly.

And who knows... with the development of NuCore and the release on the horizon (and the fact the original P2K team from WMS is absolutely blown away by it), we may just be lucky enough to see some new P2K kits released in the years to come.  (hey... I can dream right?)

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Quoted from Menace

And who knows... with the development of NuCore and the release on the horizon (and the fact the original P2K team from WMS is absolutely blown away by it), we may just be lucky enough to see some new P2K kits released in the years to come.  (hey... I can dream right?)

I see an interesting business opportunity for a pin enthusiast with guts (...and money...)


With Stern sacking quality Designers, and legends like Lawlor and Ritchie
already working as freelance contractors,   it might not be too much of a stretch
to get some of those original P2K designers to work on  a new P2K pin.

Perhaps even let Stern in on the take in exchange for borrowing the manufacturing facilities...

...aaaahhhh, to dream....



Steph

Quoted from Steph

I see an interesting business opportunity for a pin enthusiast with guts (...and money...)


With Stern sacking quality Designers, and legends like Lawlor and Ritchie
already working as freelance contractors,   it might not be too much of a stretch
to get some of those original P2K designers to work on  a new P2K pin.

Perhaps even let Stern in on the take in exchange for borrowing the manufacturing facilities...

...aaaahhhh, to dream....



Steph

I actually mentioned this to another member last night in a PM. I personally believe that if Stern folds, I would not be surprised to see another company rise up (either new or a resurrected name) and release a product. And with the NuCore hardware being less expensive and using common parts (I think), this gives P2K a BIG advantage! The system, albeit not 100% popular with collectors, is a phenomenal platform. The possibilities are endless. And this system could even run a standard format pin with an LCD instead of the DMD easily.

NuCore is the engine for the future of pinball. Period. It is versatile, and uses readily-found components.

Quoted from Sparky

NuCore is the engine for the future of pinball. Period. It is versatile, and uses readily-found components.

Sadly, last I heard about it Wayne is threatening to stop it. The threat alone may stall it for some time. No one wants to get in a legal battle over something that has limited revenue potential.

I agree it could have alot of potential for hobbyists. Don't see it replacing Stern. Operators cann't be bothered to put in a memory stick and update the software, I cann't see them buying NuCore unless it is a complete pinball. And if it's a complete pinball, it's going to cost the same or more than pinball costs now and operators aren't buying enough now.

Duane

Quoted from Sparky

Am I the only one that thinks that a haunted house theme would sell big-time? GTB's HH is still popular today... the horror theme never goes out of style...

Slightly OT unless were talking about themes in general, but I thought a Hot Wheels-themed machine would have been popular. Imagine orange tracks/ramps, a car/ball accelerator (à la High Speed 2), a vertical loop, etc...

Quoted from TwilightZone

Sadly, last I heard about it Wayne is threatening to stop it.

I'm not sure that he can....

NuCore is an Operating System made to emulate the Cyrix/Linux platform
which is used by Pin 2K.

Williams never owned the rights to that, so Wayne can blow smoke all he wants,
he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on...

He "might" be able to argue that using the P2K code to develop the OS
is a violation of copyright, but even that is weak...

And if NuCore becomes a reality, any new titles produced couldn't possibly
be a copyright infringement , ...unless someone was dumb enough to re-use
the "Pinball 2000" name .

I'd like nothing more than for Wayne to challenge this
and take a beating over it...  

He's a parasite to the hobby and needs to go away...


Steph