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So I cleaned up this old TAF pf and was thinking of what to do:

Put it on the wall as art.

Send it in to get fixed, wait forever (I don't need it right now) and then keep it for future considerations.

Keep it, wait for a TAF to come up with a bad pf, then fix it for swapping.

Now I go back to my situation where I didn't want to take out my pf and sit on a pile of parts forever until it gets fixed. Repro really wasn't the way I wanted to go and fortunately I lucked out on a CC original. So I am thinking... Hmmm. should I get it fixed and have it as an original CC spare since it takes so long to get done, or should I offer it up for sale so someone who doesn't want their game in pieces has something to send off in place of their own pf?

It's got some ugly spots, but I am pretty sure it can be fixed.

What would you do?



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Considering how much coin a NOS clearcoated one went for on ebay a few days ago (over $1600 I believe),
and you don't need it right away, I send it out now for future considerations.

btw ... I'm looking for a worn-out Getaway, or No Fear unpopulated pf if anyone knows where one might be sitting.

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I have a getaway playfield on the wall in my stairs... it's got a bad spot but the rest is ok ..and it seem a nos is coming to ebay soon ...

... and the pristine no fear I had I sold to Treasure cove ... for 150$ US


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Put it for sale on ebay, you may be surprised what you will get for it.


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Send it to me for my (Brrrrrrrrrr)  Christmas Present!!  

Dave


Here are games I would like to acquire this year, or sometime...

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Iron Man
Attack From Mars  Prefer Pounded playfield!
Monster Bash       Prefer Pounded Playfield!
Elvis
Sopranos
Batman Forever
Spider-Man  Stern  Prefer Pounded Playfield!

Have these available for trade or possible sale:
Corvette  
South Park            
Theatre of Magic
Twilight Zone
RFM/SW:EP1 Nucore Combo
AFM
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Send it to me for my (Brrrrrrrrrr)  Christmas Present!!  

Dave


Hey Dave. At what temperature is it that hell actually freezes over?

I will take a couple of pics of it and post them for comment. I am curious if I am just being overly optimistic about it's prospects for being restored.



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OK, OK, Just send me the New One, Leave it in the game for safe shipping!!

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Here are games I would like to acquire this year, or sometime...

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Iron Man
Attack From Mars  Prefer Pounded playfield!
Monster Bash       Prefer Pounded Playfield!
Elvis
Sopranos
Batman Forever
Spider-Man  Stern  Prefer Pounded Playfield!

Have these available for trade or possible sale:
Corvette  
South Park            
Theatre of Magic
Twilight Zone
RFM/SW:EP1 Nucore Combo
AFM
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OK, OK, Just send me the New One, Leave it in the game for safe shipping!!

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Dave, you don't want to see the new one. It turned out really really Nice. So nice I have to keep it without a doubt.

As for my old one here is a pic. What do you think. Wall art or repairable? What is still hard to see even when you scale it up fully is in the power cloud. Thin cracks, that to me may be the killer.




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Necro:

I have seen worse TAF playfields get restored so it is worth something. You can always try Ebay.  


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I have seen worse TAF playfields get restored so it is worth something. You can always try Ebay.  


It cost a few bucks to ship the good one to me though so that might make it prohibitive. All I can say is after hearing Vengeance's story on his pf, the waiting, the poor communication with the restorer, the box of parts, etc. There has to be a better way. Thankfully I got a great condition CC pf right away. The stars must of been lining up that day.

Now if a guy were really thinking he would buy it and send it directly to whomever was going to restore it.



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Well, It is Certainly good enough for wall art, especially at my house as I have no standards!! You saw my Funhouse Playfield, didn't you!  

As for restoring it, I don't think it looks to bad in the pic, but I can't see the cracks and I don't know much about restoring them.

That said, There are 20,000+ AF's out there and I know there are many playfields waaaaaay worse than that one.

Dave


Here are games I would like to acquire this year, or sometime...

24
Iron Man
Attack From Mars  Prefer Pounded playfield!
Monster Bash       Prefer Pounded Playfield!
Elvis
Sopranos
Batman Forever
Spider-Man  Stern  Prefer Pounded Playfield!

Have these available for trade or possible sale:
Corvette  
South Park            
Theatre of Magic
Twilight Zone
RFM/SW:EP1 Nucore Combo
AFM
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I saw the playfield in the machine, mine was in much worse shape and was brought back to life.

It was a hassle the first time but I've learned from my mistakes.  My Fishtales is with Captian Neo right now, it cost me $80 to ship it down to him with UPS.  I had the same box from last time so I didn't need to build one.  His turn around time was quoted to me at 8 weeks.  Will he get it done in that time, only time will tell but his communication thus far has been good.  On the way back I will have it shipped to a Fedex or UPS depot in Niagra Falls that is just across the border and I will go and pick it up myself and make a weekend of it then bring it across the border myself so I won't get raped by brokerage fees which was what killed me last time.  

This Fish Tales playfield was pretty wrecked as well, tons of insert damage, if your not in a hurry when I get it back I can pots before and after pics so you can see the kind of work Neo does.  Mr Hide had a playfield done but he used a lower level of service, that is another nice thing you can choose the thype of resoration work he does.  I think Mr Hide went with Level 3, my fishtales is going in for his best work possible which is a level 5.


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I also have some playfields being shipped to Neo as well.  Communication seems good so far.  Easy to get on the phone and was quite helpful in explaining the different services he offers.  I was given a rough turn around time of 6 to 8 weeks as well.  To me, it was really a toss up between Karlzona and Neo.  My past experience/communication with Playfield Renovations was decent, but lately they have been frustrating to get some basic questions answered.
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PFR isn't accepting anything new, neither is Bill Davis.

The only restores left are HSA and Captain Neo.

Karl isn't an option for me as the guy seems like a complete douche.  I'd prefer to have nothing to do with him as I don't feel he deserves my business.  I don't like his business ethics and I don't like how he represents himself so he doesn't deserve my business as far as I'm concerned.  


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Keep in mind Karl and Gary are good friends, not worth sending him anything.
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Who is who in the zoo? You guys are throwing around first, last and company names.

How about a list of who does this thing? First name, last name and what company they go by if any? Pros and Cons.



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PFR - Playfield Renovations - http://www.pfrenovations.com/ - Jim and Chris

Great work, did an amazing job on my TAF, took them 10 months, but are no longer accepting new work.

Bill Davis - http://billdavis.homestead.com/page2.html

Bill was the original, does great work, better to deal with him over the phone, nice guy to talk to, it will take him over a year to get the work done, but it will be done WELL! I've heard he also is no longer accepting new work.

HSA - http://www.hsapinball.com/

Mixed reviews, I've heard they have had some trouble starting but are getting better, supposed to be pretty cheap with quick turn around times but won't take on huge projects because of the extra time it takes for the restoration pushing back their turnaround time.  

Captian Neo - Neo Skywalker (Yes that is his real name I asked him) - http://www.captainneo.com/

New to the scene offers diffrent levels of work at diffrent prices in an attempt to offer restoration services to a wider variety of clients.  Good turn around times and decent prices.  This is who I went with for my Fish Tales restoration so I'll have a more informed opinion once I get my playfield back.

KarlZona - Karl Ruehs - http://karlzona.smugmug.com/Hobbies/351815

Complete douchebag moron, will never deal with him.  His work seems good but his ethics and the way he acts make it so I'll never deal with him.  Big warning dealing with this guy, Gary the Psycho from RGP has him in his back pocket and will cause problems with your project if you have ever pissed him off.  Red Flags all over this guy, I'll never use him.  


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Neo Skywalker (Yes that is his real name I asked him)


! As given by his parents? Or did he have it legally changed?

According to http://www.yellowpages.com, in the USA there are 3 people named Luke Skywalker, 1 named I.M. Skywalker and, of course, Neo Skywalker. Pretty funny stuff.

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! As given by his parents? Or did he have it legally changed?



That I don't know, didn't ask that, but that I.M Skywalker is pretty funny, !


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