I would like to have your top worse pin...  Just for the fun.  Could be the look in general or a very bad game play... My choices are Vampire this machine is the worse looking pinball ever made (I don't want to offence anybody by the way). Four Million BC is very close to this one in my own opinion.  What about Raven? hummm could be there as well...  Again this is for fun!

SW: EP 1
Killed the most promising new pinball platform in recent years. Killed the best manufacturer of pinballs ever. Looks terrible, plays terrible, based on one of the worst movies ever.

El Toro, with a weak right flipper.  

Almost anything Chicago Coin; eg: Red Baron

Any classic Bally  

Quoted from machine.slave

Any classic STERN

tru dat mi amigo tru dat

What about Miami Heat ??

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What about Miami Heat ??

Hollywood Heat

and it's actually not a bad player.. just damn fugly.

Austin Powers..

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If that's the worst pin ever then you have played VERY few pins in your day. I understand if it is not to your liking, but worst ever??

For me, its gotta be a toss up between Gottlieb's Circus and Genie. To be fair, any time I've played these pins, theres always been something shot on it. But anyways, these are THE largest, widest and slowest, nap-inspiring pins I've ever played.

And sorry for the inevitable sour grapes from Circus and Genie lovers!

Stan

Worst, or worst looking? I rather focus on gameplay, and separate by era.

EM: Jubilee. There is practically nothing to shoot at!!!! Only that horseshoe with the captive balls! And to top it off, beside both flippers is an ejector that shoots right at the horseshoe... so the flippers are barely needed! And considering what came out around then, like 4MBC and Fireball (multiball, zipper filppers, skill shot), this thing is downright horrible. A local dealer near my home has one and can't even sell it.

SS: tie between Pokerino and Super Orbit. Booooooooooring.

DMD/P2K:  SWE1. I agree with Jon... I have always said it... Playing that pin is like playing a commercial for a bad, overly-hyped movie. No ball flow, as it is ALWAYS stopped to show you a bit of the movie. RFM does this too, but at least the animation is funny... and that stupid neon. Yeah... I know... it is a signature of a popular and well loved designer. But I can't stand it. Just plain dumb.

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For me, its gotta be a toss up between Gottlieb's Circus and Genie. To be fair, any time I've played these pins, theres always been something shot on it. But anyways, these are THE largest, widest and slowest, nap-inspiring pins I've ever played.

And sorry for the inevitable sour grapes from Circus and Genie lovers!

No way!

I can't speak for Genie owners but my Circus didn't play slow at all. Did you try mine at the Toronto Pinball show? 27" legs upfront and cranked levellers on 28.5" legs on the back. Unfortunately, a fuse blew and a switch broke in transit so it wasn't playing 100%. Mike Hanley bought it from me and can now be enjoyed at the Church of the Silverball ... I hope, assuming he has it set up.

Go to the Church, play my old Circus, enjoy and recant, Stan! RECANT!

Bleeeeeaaaaaarrrrrrrgh!

Flipper Football.   if you can call it a pin..

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Flipper Football

DMD machines, I agree. And I own one!

Anything Alvin g
also (many of you will disagree) batman forever is a game that looks like alot of fun, however I think it's the worst dmd

"WORSE PIN EVER"  is way too wide of a spectrum to "call it" with a fair chance at being in agreement with a mass of players, let alone this MAACA bunch of experts.

However, I recently had the terrible experience of playing a Bally 1973 CIRCUS, forget that Gottlieb of the same name, - this one is the crappier of the two.

After shopping it out for a client from the dregs of playability, I thought that it was my fault that the play appeal was so lame. No matter what I did to it, fine tuning, tweeking, raising the back legs, Mills wax & then CP-100 for high speed, - whatever I would do, even wiring up the flippers to DC to add some zing & zang, the thing still played like a POS.

Nothing to shoot at, just try to accumulate the bonus to light the extra ball, double bonus and the special, that's it and that's all. Even esthetically it looks like it must have been some kind of bad-a** '70's doped up clown trip coming off the Bally assembly line.

Just to prove that there is not much point to this thread, my client was very happy with his goofy looking POS, but nevertheless a working commercial pinball machine.

Junkyard....................most annoying pin I have ever played!!

I tried an old woodrail Fairways which I thought would be very cool since I like golf, but I was wrong. I did not enjoy the fact that when you press the button for the flippers, both would activate at once. Not good in my books. I am thankful for the larger flippers and never enjoyed a pin with the smaller flippers.

Overall, I like almost every kind of pin from the different eras, yes even the new Sterns. What I qualify as worst pins ever was when I was at the Calgary airport and the state of repairs was atrocious. I considered those pins as the worst ever but in the hands of a knowledgeable collector, they would have been fine.

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"WORSE PIN EVER"  is way too wide of a spectrum to call it with any chance at being in agreement with a mass of players, let alone the MAACA bunch.

However, I recently had the terrible experience of playing a Bally 1973 CIRCUS (forget the Gottlieb of the same name as crappy).

After shopping it for a client from the dregs of playability, I thought that it was my fault that the play appeal was so lame. No matter what I did to it, fine tuning, tweeking, raising the back legs, - whatever I would do, even wiring up the flippers to DC to add some zing, the thing still played like a POS.

Nothing to shoot at, just try to accumulate bonus to lite the extra ball and the special, that`s it that`s all. Even asthetically it looks like it must have been some kind of bad trip coming off the Bally assembly line.

Just to prove that there is not much point to this thread, the client was very happy with his goofy looking POS working pin.

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Right!!  Now I remember playing that game back in time.  It was such a poor game...  Bally was having a hard time at this particuliar period.  Somebody wrote Hollywood Heat and I got to agree this was not the best game ever made.  An other Bally Chef d'oeuvre was Hard body  strange look but it was the '80...

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El Toro, with a weak right flipper.  

Almost anything Chicago Coin; eg: Red Baron

WOW!  Never heard of this one "El Toro"  Hard to beleive it was produce...  Thank god it was not the first pin i played back in time.  I probably never been able to love pinball after this "shock"

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...  Bally was having a hard time at this particuliar period.  

Absolutely, Bally was just getting back to making pinballs with a more regular production schedual during the early sixties. Having produced about 7 pinballs only from 1950 to 1960 didn't provide much threatening competition to Gottlieb or Williams, and since the money was in the Bingo machine market, which Bally dominated, why would they invest crucial resources elsewhere for the time being. So as the gambling laws became more restrictive in the mid to late fifties (the Johnson act), they started making pinballs again in 1963. Needless to say that they were out of the loop and producing some real crap, while Gottlieb and Williams had their "beat" well established. But, by the time the mid to late seventies rolled around Bally somehow managed to hit a nerve, maybe it was the DC coils and\or DChristenson, but Bally took off to produce some very fast and sexy machines. This gave the other big two manufacturers a real run for their cashboxes, and in the end the industry bloomed.

Hmmm... worst pin ever... Oh that's easy, any pin that I really want but can't afford.

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Hmmm... worst pin ever... Oh that's easy, any pin that I really want but can't afford.

Or the last pin that I've sold  

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I would like to have your top worse pin...  Just for the fun.  Could be the look in general or a very bad game play... My choices are Vampire this machine is the worse looking pinball ever made (I don't want to offence anybody by the way). Four Million BC is very close to this one in my own opinion.  What about Raven? hummm could be there as well...  Again this is for fun!

Spectra IV....
Unbeatably boring...


Second would be Junkyard, very annoying pin...

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then CP-100 for high speed,

it's high speed CAUSE IT TAKES THE PAINT AWAY!! stop using that stuff!!

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it's high speed CAUSE IT TAKES THE PAINT AWAY!! stop using that stuff!!

Use CP-100 over the Mill Wax and the ball just floats, especialuy on bingos, (not on mylar or clearcoated playfields)

Takes the paint away, you are too much Phil.

Bally Black-Belt. ugly, bad music and poor gameplay.