I vote Tglover for Premiere.  I am sure he can sell our natural resources and talent abroad for a nice profit and reduce our debt!  

Quoted from jonny_eh

One could say it's like arguing about what goes best on a pizza.

Steak, pepperoni, mushrooms and lots of hot sauce.

(great...w e are setting up for another mindless thread. )

Quoted from websherpa

We still live a lot better than Europeans and Americans.

Huh?  Based on what metric?   European labour laws far exceed any of those our federal or provincial government have.   Their cities are well planned with community atmospheres, and less emphasis on big-box concrete jungles.  

If "a lot better" is based on size of house and amount of chineese gadgets one has in their house, then maybe I'd agree.   But those aren't the metrics I judge living standards by, nor why I would elect a politician.  

Off topic, but related, Hersey's in Smith Falls is an example that made me think over the past years.   Ontario could not provide an environment to make Hersey stay.   Hersey had access to a workforce and excellent dairy, but could not make chocolate in Canada profitably.   Smith Falls is an example where local companies based on labour are leaving the country (forestry, machining, chocolate, ...).   I'm sure there's more examples.   To me, I want the government to change this somehow.   Not sure how, but that's what I'd like.  
  

I always feel sorry for Bob Rae. First Bill Davis...who did a great job until the latter part of his political carreer...leaves a huge pile for David Peterson to clean up.

Which he doesnt. Then poor ol Bob Rae comes in and has a huge mess to clean up, which he spends 4 and a half years doing. Of course he gets no credit for the job hes done because he's still taking crap for the old messes left by previous governments. So they hrow him out of office and Harris gets elected...and guess who makes it look nice and easy with a clean office and no messes to clean up? Harris of course, until eventually all the hard work done by Bob Rae is used up and Harris all of a sudden doesnt look so good.
Long story short, politically, the public has no friggin clue. they vote like sheep and they really dont know the real issues. They vote for their favoutire colour, or if they like the candidates suit. Or they vote foe the same party their father voted for and his father voted for, despite the issues. Massively misinformed people vote for these governments. And its typical.

As far as the Federal liberals are concerned... they missed the boat and should have elected Rae leader. Dion was a horrible choice, Ignatieff...I think I saw him in a Star Trek episode captainning a Romulan warship. Actually I'm starting to like him and hes NOT an easily likeable guy. Still, they missed the boat on the most qualified and intelligent candidate...Bob Rae. But opinions...NOT intelligence, make for votes.

Quoted from Pinballed

Long story short, politically, the public has no friggin clue. they vote like sheep and they really dont know the real issues. They vote for their favoutire colour, or if they like the candidates suit. Or they vote foe the same party their father voted for and his father voted for, despite the issues. Massively misinformed people vote for these governments. And its typical.

Couldn't agree more on that, most people don't have any ideas of the big picture.  When your source is only TV news you can't have a idea of what happenning.  
Also it's hard to have a real debate or simply talk on politic, people get angry very fast and preffered not to talk about it

I hate politics. They dont mix with pinball.

PM to Sparky...

Quoted from Sparky

I should do like Peter Griffin and declare my own country.

Again? mess just when I thought the Cdn dollar was coming back.

Hahaha, fun thread.

lately i have been wanting to buy some land outside the city (maybe near P-boro so i can go and play pinball with McMean and Bish) and build a utilitarian hovel and escape the world.  I doubt any politicians would come to my door if i lived in an off grid Cob house.  I can come back when everything is fixed... think i'll be staying there a LONG time.

Only being in my mid 30's i was a little younger when Bob Rae took over... the only thing anyone ever says about him is "#^%&% Rae days"  I don't remember Rae days ruining my life, but again, i was young and stupid and probably drunk.


I guess its like customer service, nobody remembers the good stuff, just when the waiter forgot you side of gravy.

As far as pizza, i think everyone can agree that it is ALWAYS best with Pesto sauce, sun dried tomato, roasted chicken and a little cheddar cheese on top of the mozzarella.... and that ALL pizza shoiud be thin crust.