You can't leave now!!!  I've got an even LOUDER machine for the next mtg...Harley Davidson!!  It KILLS Heavy Metal Meltdown in the music dept...sounds great turned up to 10!!

        If I had to buy back every machine I've sold that had issues develop, I'd have about 100000000000 sq.ft. of space filled with the damn things!!! Its the nature of the beast...when I sell something, I give one guarantee..thats that the machine WILL breakdown at some point....if they can't accept that, then they should not be getting into this hobby.

     I'll buy it for the $800 if thats what he needs....hopefully this could resolve the situation! I know Mike or Sylvain will be up for the challenge!! Right guys??????????????

Jim Your one in a million
I am sure you can even make a deal with him for another machine
But thats a great offer on your part Jim Always said your a good guy.
At least it,s not a ebay suprise

Quoted from 265

     I'll buy it for the $800 if thats what he needs....hopefully this could resolve the situation! I know Mike or Sylvain will be up for the challenge!! Right guys??????????????

Quoted from 265

when I sell something, I give one guarantee..thats that the machine WILL breakdown at some point....if they can't accept that, then they should not be getting into this hobby.

That's what they call a "100% Guarantee"  

Duane

How come i haven't seen these boards yet ????

Ian PM me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted from Steph

As someone who was intimately involved with this deal
(... it was a colleague from my work place who bought the game based on my recommendation ... )

Hey Steph,

Sounds like you were trying to help a friend out and that's a admirable. Shame things haven't worked out and I hope everyone involved ends up happy in the end.

For future consideration, I would never recommend an early SS to anyone thinking of getting into pinball that isn't comfortable with electronics. I started with that generation of game and they are a pain in the a**. Always seem to need some type of work, always breaking down, etc. I know others will disagree, but that's one of the main points I moved onto other games (and newer games are better -- putz! to Mr Hide !). I generally recommend Sys. 11 or better. For $1,000 or less, your buddy should be able to get a Sys. 11. Of course, that doesn't help the situation now, but thought others might appreciate that if they have friends itching to get a game.

Just a word of advice.

Cheers,
Duane

unfortunately Ian can not pm anyone at the moment as he deleted himself I will talk to him and get him reinstated.  anyone else still reading who left the forum if i have you in backup we can put you back, if not please make a new account we miss your input.

Quoted from mindstorm88

How come i haven't seen these boards yet ????

Ian PM me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted from mindstorm88

How come i haven't seen these boards yet ????

Ian PM me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU DID  ...   it was once AMX ...

Quoted from JD3

unfortunately Ian can not pm anyone at the moment as he deleted himself I will talk to him and get him reinstated.  anyone else still reading who left the forum if i have you in backup we can put you back, if not please make a new account we miss your input.

So is Mark president??? I joke Seriously Sparky, have a cold one tonight and give it some more thought. Crap happens. That's life unfortunately.

There is more good in the hobby (any hobby really) than bad.

Duane

...and just to follow-up...

I just spoke to my buddy, ...who's quite frankly puzzled by Ian's reaction....

His PM to Ian only queried to know if he had ever had that problem before,
because it seemed unusual that the game should break down after only one day
(..although stranger things have happened ... )

It was Ian, ENTIRELY of his own accord, who said anything about taking the pin back.
My buddy never even hinted that he wanted any kind of compensation from Ian,
nor did he ever mention wanting any kind of refund or return.
... he only said he was disappointed that the pin broke down so quickly and was looking for information.
(...see my next post to Mindstorm...)

I admire Ian as much as anyone else and think he's a stellar spokesman for MAACA,
but I take offense to my buddy being vilified for something he never said or did.

He never asked Ian to take the pin back,  ... nor does he want to...
...

Now lets all take a deep breath...
(...or a beer, or whatever it takes to chill out ),
and wait for Marty to work his magic  .

Like Rudy said,   "... it's only Pinball !   "

Steph

Quoted from mindstorm88

How come i haven't seen these boards yet ????

Apparently you have...

http://archive.maaca.org/s107351202.onlinehome.us/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1180439687/

Quoted from Sparky

Machine is VERY clean, been recently shopped, and boards are super clean and were updated by Mindstorm a while back

As for Duane's comment that a newbie shouldn't buy old machines if they can't fix them,
consider that :

1- The game was being sold as fully working by a very reputable seller  (...who still is in everybody's books )
2- The boards had been shopped by Mindstorm
3- It was cared for by Phil before Ian bought it

If that doesn't sound like a "sure thing" , I don't know what does...

I know a 27 year old pin is prone to problems, but given the pedigree this machine was coming from,
I  figured it would be good to play for awhile.

Besides, tell me how many of you paid $1000+ for your first pin ...
As a newbie, pinball prices are somewhat intimidating , few could afford, or would want to pay more
than that for a good working pin.


Steph

Hey John,

Talk to your buddy (Ian) and tell him to relax and to calm down...

The problem with rookies: They buy a 'cheap' 25-year old machine and expect that it's a $5000 Stern one (even those break, right Marty? )

Ian: don't be stoopid...take a Guiness (or 5) and relax... I don't see a written contract, so too bad for the buyer...

BTW, been there, went through that (bought a working machine which broke as soon as it got in the basement....frustrating yes, but you have what you pay for)

Mes deux cennes,

Frosken