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Tonight Team Canada plays Norway in Olympic Hockey....any score predictions?

I'm guessing 19-0 for Canada


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Although Canada is rock solid, I will say 8-1. Too many bad memories from Turino.
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You guys are smoking some good mess to think anyone but the Juniors or Womens teams, can pull off blowouts like that against any of the Hockey oriented Euro teams.
Now if they were playing Latvia or Belarus, I could see such a blowout...not Norway, they aren't THAT bad.


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You guys are smoking some good mess to think anyone but the Juniors or Womens teams, can pull off blowouts like that against any of the Hockey oriented Euro teams.
Now if they were playing Latvia or Belarus, I could see such a blowout...not Norway, they aren't THAT bad.


Yup they are...expected to finish 11th place, have 1 NHLer on the team, and haven't made it to the olympics in 16yrs...but don't worry, one of the players from that team is on this one as well (although, he's 39yrs old now )


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Expected 11th? I REALLY can't see them finishing behind Latvia and Belarus, and doubtful if they finish behind Solvakia. Czech Rep and Russia will beat Slovakia, I can only see Slovakia winning their game against Latvia, and even that is a tossup...both teams are equal in the "Suck" department.
Same for Norway really, can only see them beating the Swiss...maybe.

I predict 0-3 for Latvia and Belarus, they don't stand a chance against the teams in their group. 1-2 for Norway.

The way the groups are set up, are total "Gimmes", you already know who will get their asses handed to them in each. Of course, preliminary round only sets up the QF 8...we'll have to see about that, but Latvia and Belarus might as well go home now.


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Expected 11th? I REALLY can't see them finishing behind Latvia and Belarus, and doubtful if they finish behind Solvakia. Czech Rep and Russia will beat Slovakia, I can only see Slovakia winning their game against Latvia, and even that is a tossup...both teams are equal in the "Suck" department.
Same for Norway really, can only see them beating the Swiss...maybe.

I predict 0-3 for Latvia and Belarus, they don't stand a chance against the teams in their group. 1-2 for Norway.

The way the groups are set up, are total "Gimmes", you already know who will get their asses handed to them in each.


Only Austria is seen as worse then Norway according the The Hockey News....Whatever...they all suck compared to Can, Swe, Rus, and Kaz
Pretty poor showing by the USA today..only beat the Swiss 3-1, and only took about 26 shots, yikes! I expected more from them...


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Expected 11th? I REALLY can't see them finishing behind Latvia and Belarus, and doubtful if they finish behind Solvakia. Czech Rep and Russia will beat Slovakia, I can only see Slovakia winning their game against Latvia, and even that is a tossup...both teams are equal in the "Suck" department.
Same for Norway really, can only see them beating the Swiss...maybe.

I predict 0-3 for Latvia and Belarus, they don't stand a chance against the teams in their group. 1-2 for Norway.

The way the groups are set up, are total "Gimmes", you already know who will get their asses handed to them in each. Of course, preliminary round only sets up the QF 8...we'll have to see about that, but Latvia and Belarus might as well go home now.


You should check the IIHF pre-tournament rankings to see how far off your logic is.

http://www.iihf.com/channels10/olympics-2010/home/men/world-ranking.html

Belarus at #8 don't stand a chance against #13 Germany?  How do you figure?

How is #11 ranked Norway better than Belarus at #8 and Lavia at #9, never mind
being better than Switzerland who is ranked at #7?

Germany is the only team with a worse ranking that Norway.

But as Hippo said there are only a few that have a chance of winning it all, the rest
are also-rans.

My prediction tonight 6-1 Canada.


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You should check the IIHF pre-tournament rankings to see how far off your logic is.

http://www.iihf.com/channels10/olympics-2010/home/men/world-ranking.html

Belarus at #8 don't stand a chance against #13 Germany?  How do you figure?

How is #11 ranked Norway better than Belarus at #8 and Lavia at #9, never mind
being better than Switzerland who is ranked at #7?

Germany is the only team with a worse ranking that Norway.

But as Hippo said there are only a few that have a chance of winning it all, the rest
are also-rans.

My prediction tonight 6-1 Canada.


If you bothered to look at the whole picture in the IIHF via games played against who etc, and the Olympic groupings...you'd see why I say what I do. Quoting The Hockey News and showing me IIHF standings when OG groupings are how they are doesn't mean a thing. None of those teams is going anywhere, no matter how you slice it though.

P.S. Those IIHF rankings mean JACK. How do you point to rankings like that, when the players aren't even the same all the time? That's an NFL mentality of "My team has won 3 Superbowls...one in 1972..."...yeah
You do realize IIHF Rankings are based on the previous World Tournaments and the last Olympics right? Those aren't exactly a regular season record like you find in the NHL...

Edit: Watching now, Crosby sure is showing his classless little baby bullshit per the norm, what a great place to do it...infront of the world. Someone needs to pop that balloon he has for a head...


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I'm guessing 19-0 for Canada


UMMMMMM..........0-0 end of the first period.....I may be eating some humble pie.


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8-0, kinda surprised Norway did not get a single goal. They had a handful of really good chances, though for the most part they played like crap.
What gives with the damn bouncy ball effect though? I've never seen a puck bounce around so much on the ice ever.


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If you bothered to look at the whole picture in the IIHF via games played against who etc, and the Olympic groupings...you'd see why I say what I do. Quoting The Hockey News and showing me IIHF standings when OG groupings are how they are doesn't mean a thing. None of those teams is going anywhere, no matter how you slice it though.

P.S. Those IIHF rankings mean JACK. How do you point to rankings like that, when the players aren't even the same all the time? That's an NFL mentality of "My team has won 3 Superbowls...one in 1972..."...yeah
You do realize IIHF Rankings are based on the previous World Tournaments and the last Olympics right? Those aren't exactly a regular season record like you find in the NHL...

Edit: Watching now, Crosby sure is showing his classless little baby bullshit per the norm, what a great place to do it...infront of the world. Someone needs to pop that balloon he has for a head...


The rankings may not apply to the elite teams that the majority of the players play in the NHL and the roster
changes considerably from tournament to tournament.

But teams you commented on have next to no players if any in the NHL, so the rosters don't change very much
from what those rankings are based on.

To say you KNOW that this team doesn't have a chance against another when you probably couldn't name
three players on either team doesn't make much sense.

I'll take the IIHF  and the Hockey News rankings over your rankings or mine any day.  I think they know a little more about it  than either of us.

And if those rankings were based soley on past Olympics and previous World Championships how is Canada ranked #2 in
the field.  The IIHF website even said the Top 9 teams in the Olympic tourney are determined by those rankings, if that meant
nothing why would they use it to determine the field for the tournament?



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And if those rankings were based soley on past Olympics and previous World Championships how is Canada ranked #2 in
the field.  The IIHF website even said the Top 9 teams in the Olympic tourney are determined by those rankings, if that meant
nothing why would they use it to determine the field for the tournament?



Why don't you try looking up how they get those rankings, instead of just flapping off...because that IS how the rankings are determined. What else are they going to use? Draw straws?
Why is Canada #2? Let's see, Russia has more Tournament points (Last 4 IIHF WT + Last Olympics) than Canada overall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIHF_World_Ranking

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so close.


  I know.. I had to give them the benefit of the doubt for that 1 goal though.

AncientGames, are you watching the time-shifted version?  


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Once the game progressed, Canada found their legs and the coaching staff did some modification to the lines (Iginla on first, Bergeron on 4th) and you could see that Norway player were tired. (Nash passing them like they were schoolboys).
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I'm not a fan of Crosby being team captain.. I believe that role should go to the most experienced, not the most popular  

** I should elaborate.. what I mean is, I think experience facing off against international teams in an international style of hockey outweighs how popular or skillful one single player is.


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I'm not a fan of Crosby being team captain.. I believe that role should go to the most experienced, not the most popular  

** I should elaborate.. what I mean is, I think experience facing off against international teams in an international style of hockey outweighs how popular or skillful one single player is.


I agree and find it surprising, too.
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I'm not a fan of Crosby being team captain.. I believe that role should go to the most experienced, not the most popular  

** I should elaborate.. what I mean is, I think experience facing off against international teams in an international style of hockey outweighs how popular or skillful one single player is.


I didnt see a "C" or an "A" on the front of Crosby's shirt...

Theses guys did:
Neidermayer "C"
Pronger "A"
Iginla "A"


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Well then I'm an idiot.  

For some reason, in Brock-land I could've swore Crosby was captain  

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He was considered for it, which is probably where my brain is getting mixed up.. either way, I'm not getting my facts straight.  Carry on, nothing to see here.


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Well then I'm an idiot.  

For some reason, in Brock-land I could've swore Crosby was captain  

**edit**

He was considered for it, which is probably where my brain is getting mixed up.. either way, I'm not getting my facts straight.  Carry on, nothing to see here.


Actually, Wikepedia has Crosby as "A" Assistant Captain for this team....guess he's an alternate in case, Neidermayer breaks a hip, or Iginla/Pronger get suspended


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Actually, Wikepedia has Crosby as "A" Assistant Captain for this team....guess he's an alternate in case, Neidermayer breaks a hip, or Iginla/Pronger get suspended


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Why don't you try looking up how they get those rankings, instead of just flapping off...because that IS how the rankings are determined. What else are they going to use? Draw straws?
Why is Canada #2? Let's see, Russia has more Tournament points (Last 4 IIHF WT + Last Olympics) than Canada overall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIHF_World_Ranking

This is my last reply in this thread...you're determined that somehow opinion is fact and law, grow up.


Well you learn something new every day, I did not in fact know how the rankings were compiled.

I'm not sure the flapping off and grow up comments were necessary but to each there own.

I had a few drinks when I was watching the game so take my comments of last night with a grain of salt.

The only thing I and the other poster really disagreed with you on was the comment that Norway isn't as bad as Belarus and Latvia.  Maybe when all three end up 0-3 then we can talk.

Enjoy the rest of the tournament.

And I'm pretty sure only in Canada would you see two guys arguing or caring
about where teams are ranked outside of the top 6.


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Finland 5-1 over Belarus
Russia 8-2 over Latvia

Best either can hope for now is 1-2, Belarus won't beat Sweden and Latvia won't beat the Czech Rep. Both their other games will be close, but I don't see them winning them either.

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Sorry I meant Germany, Latvia and Norway will finish 0-3.   Not Belarus, they stink but I think
they should be able to beat Germany.

No need to abstain from posting in this thread, it was meant to start a discussion right?
It's just the name calling I can do without.


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