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I have a golden Tee "99" board that I LOVE.
I am 99% sure that this PCB can be updated to Golden Tee 2K with a EPROM upgrade, am I right?
Is there ant other game I can upgrade this Golden Tee "99" PCB to? Golden tee classics?? |
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I am 99% sure that this PCB can be updated to Golden Tee 2K with a EPROM upgrade, am I right?
Yes and no... Yes, you can upgrade to T2K by an eprom swap only, but you also need a security chip which (...as of yet...), can not be copied. This was purposely done by the manufacturer to force people to buy the upgrade only from them. (...go figure..) I'd sell 100's of these if I could crack that security chip.... Cheers, Steph |
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Pharoah007 |
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good to know. Are there any groups actively trying to crack this chip? |
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Are there any groups actively trying to crack this chip?
Not as far as I know... The amount of work likely required to reverse-engineer the security chip would most likely not get financially re-couped. (...I'm guessing it could take several months of work. And assuming a very modest engineer salary of $60K/yr, you'd be looking at a cost of $10K easily... ) You'd have to sell ALOT of chips at $10 a pop to make that up... (...cause people won't pay $100 per chip either... ) I can't see this happening.... Steph |
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good to know. Are there any groups actively trying to crack this chip?
The other question to ask is: Would this be legal, and are there still licence owners anywhere. Many company/lawyers, or their new intellectual property and licence owners, are protecting their copyrights and licenced material (even if older), and will follow-up on any infridgment... One example: Gottlieb LLC for instance. Cheers, - Sylvain. |
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I'm sure the Mame dev team is working on decoding the later versions to work in Mame (2001-2006 versions). GTG up to 2k is alerady included in Mame, so someone has found a way to decode what is on the chips and make it work in an emulator. |
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Pharoah007 |
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I'm sure the Mame dev team is working on decoding the later versions to work in Mame (2001-2006 versions). GTG up to 2k is alerady included in Mame, so someone has found a way to decode what is on the chips and make it work in an emulator.
makes sense, so there is hope. |
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so someone has found a way to decode what is on the chips and make it work in an emulator.
Yes and no... The MAME team has the luxury of writing drivers that bypass the function of the security chip. On a physical PCB, the data path is fixed across many ICs. It only take one of those ICs to "encrypt/decrypt" the data. On a MAME driver, you simply omit that part. For instance the Ivan Stewart Iron Man Track Pak kit has a security chip, but the game works fine in MAME with only the eprom files. Unfortunately using those same eproms on PCB won't work. Steph |
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Pharoah007 |
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aah I see. "99" it is for me then. |
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