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What is the best service to ship a pin from east to west?

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I'm just about to ship a machine from Ottawa to Alberta and we found "Maritime Ontario" to be cheaper than Day & Ross (www.sameday.ca).

I've never used 'M-O'...I'll be able to give you additional info in approx. 2 weeks.




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Oooo, hey, I'm getting a pin from frosken.  What ya gettin from Ottawa?


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BSD from Hippochrome....so TZ has a friend

"Maritime Ontario" does seem to be the way to go...$133 or so for Ontario-Alberta from what I hear
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I was quoted $220.  I wish it was $133.


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I was quoted $220.  I wish it was $133.


$220 Yikes!
Hardcor told me and dino7c it was only $133


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$220 for terminal to terminal.  It's crated though.  Not sure how much of a difference that makes.  


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$220 for terminal to terminal.  It's crated though.  Not sure how much of a different that makes.  


Do you have a phone number for those guys?



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Yup, that's the same dudes hardcor sent with...their office is closed right now here. I thought $133 seemed too good to be true!


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FYI, sameday quoted $290 terminal to terminal for a 4' x 4' x 5' crate at about 350lbs.  That was the measurement and weight given from the seller.




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I dunno, less than $300 still sounds cheap to me.


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FYI, sameday quoted $290 terminal to terminal for a 4' x 4' x 5' crate at about 350lbs.  That was the measurement and weight given from the seller.




Yeah, but a BSD pinball machine is what...
250lbs
2.5feet,  by 4.5feet, by 2feet
Wrap it up in cardboard, tons of saranwrap, and pop it on a skid.....easy peasy lemon squeezie


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I would expect the shipper to do a quick measurement and give an actual cost.  Who knows.

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Yup, that's the same dudes hardcor sent with...their office is closed right now here. I thought $133 seemed too good to be true!


MEANING>>>>>that the dudes at the Ottawa port must be charging more then in Calgary! $133.03 is what HARDKOR paid.


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You can buy a new car for $9999.00
You can also buy one for over $100000.00

Although both are cars, there's a difference between the two.

For the pricing discussed here:

1) crating (the one I'm sending is in a complete wooden crate.)
2) "dealer discount" (Dunno...maybe hardkor has an account with them thus better pricing? )
3) Weight (did the Calgary terminal actually weighed the skid??? Shipping a pin means pinball weight PLUS skid PLUS packing material)
4) Taxes (no provincial sales tax in Alberta)
5) Fuel surcharge (was there a fuel surcharge when the BSD was shipped?)
6) rate change (maybe the rates increased since )

As you can see, too many differences to state "oh! you're getting screwed on the shipping".

I think $220 is pretty good, 'cuz my Flipper Football cost me quite a bit more than that when it was shipped from Vancouver a few years ago...when there weren't affected by any fuel surcharges.


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As you can see, too many differences to state "oh! you're getting screwed on the shipping".

I think $220 is pretty good, 'cuz my Flipper Football cost me quite a bit more than that when it was shipped from Vancouver a few years ago...when there weren't affected by any fuel surcharges.


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For sure!
$220 is a fine shipping price....$133 is better....



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Hippo, get a quote tomorrow and post the quote.  It would be interesting to see if there's any differences.  


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Hippo, get a quote tomorrow and post the quote.  It would be interesting to see if there's any differences.  


Well, just got off the phone with them and:



Just the pin, wrapped in saran and cardboard = $73.37

Pin on one of their skids = $166.60


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Wow, that's a big difference!  Damn!




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I should say that for the extra $70 in shipping, the crate would hopefully mean the pin would arrive in one piece and undamaged.  


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I should say that for the extra $70 in shipping, the crate would hopefully mean the pin would arrive in one piece and undamaged.  


Not a crate...a big skid 48 by 54.....rated at 600lbs


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I meant the price difference between the skid and the crate.  I guess it's more like $90.  



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FYI, sameday quoted $290 terminal to terminal for a 4' x 4' x 5' crate at about 350lbs.  That was the measurement and weight given from the seller.




Hopefully it's not more than 350 lbs, 'cause it's more than 5-feet of heights!!!

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Let me know if they measure and/or weigh it at the terminal.


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Well, just got off the phone with them and:



Just the pin, wrapped in saran and cardboard = $73.37

Pin on one of their skids = $166.60


sweet, now to decide if its worth the $90 for the skid
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Let me know if they measure and/or weigh it at the terminal.


I will.

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Couldn't you just get a skid from a local big box retailer or something for free? They must be swimming in them.


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Couldn't you just get a skid from a local big box retailer or something for free? They must be swimming in them.


Its not the price of the skid that's $90...its the extra space the skid takes up in the truck that they charge extra for


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Couldn't you just get a skid from a local big box retailer or something for free? They must be swimming in them.


We can't GIVE skids away.. we just chop them up and burn them.


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Its not the price of the skid that's $90...its the extra space the skid takes up in the truck that they charge extra for


I`m really surprised they will take it without a skid. Opens up the potential to damage from them dragging the game. Note to the buyer, pay the extra and get it shipped on a skid.

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I agree.  Get the skid and pay the extra.  They will try to stack as much stuff on it as possible to maximize load.  If it arrives damaged, you're screwed.  No insurance.


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I shipped 2 machines WITHOUT skids, as per the buyer's request: He used NAVL and they were wrapped in blankets.

Now, my personal preference: CRATE / SKID

I'm positive there are alot of 'juicy stories' of machines arriving in...well...multiple pieces and MOST of them were not crate or on a skid.




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The only time I had pins shipped with no skid or crate was when I moved.  And I was there to watch them load and unload them from the truck.  Other than that, it's at least a skid with cardboard and wrap.  Crating is the ultimate but it can be dropped too so there's no guarantee.




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The pin is gone!!!

pinsRfun, Frosken will contact you with all the details and the tracking number.

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Well, just got off the phone with them and:



Just the pin, wrapped in saran and cardboard = $73.37

Pin on one of their skids = $166.60



That's strange, guess its too late, but Maritime Ontario never charged anything extra for a skid, they preferred to put the pins (in cardboard and pre shrink-wrapped is how I have done it) on their skids for you (and then wrap them again) as it makes it easier to load the trucks, even if they pack more than one persons items on the skid... they keep the skid at the other end.  Maybe it depends what terminal you work out of.


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That's strange, guess its too late, but Maritime Ontario never charged anything extra for a skid, they preferred to put the pins (in cardboard and pre shrink-wrapped is how I have done it) on their skids for you (and then wrap them again) as it makes it easier to load the trucks, even if they pack more than one persons items on the skid... they keep the skid at the other end.  Maybe it depends what terminal you work out of.


Nope...its the amount of extra floor space "foot print"  that the skid takes up, that they charge extra for.


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I'm just saying that this wasn't my experience shipping a pinball and arcade video with MO (they didn't charge anything extra for "skid space" - everything went on a skid regardless), that's all. The price from Mississauga to way out East was about $90 if I remember correctly, but that may have been just before gas prices went through the ceiling.


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I'm just saying that this wasn't my experience shipping a pinball and arcade video with MO (they didn't charge anything extra for "skid space" - everything went on a skid regardless), that's all. The price from Mississauga to way out East was about $90 if I remember correctly, but that may have been just before gas prices went through the ceiling.


Dont know....
I'll I know is I called and spoke to some lady who asked for the dimensions and weight of the item being shipped, and then she gave me a price.
Afterwords I asked "so does the pinball machine go on a skid or something", and she said..."we have skids, but they are (such and such) size, so it would cost this other price to ship it like that"....then she gave me a quote number for my inquires.


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