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Golf.

John Daly ia a very atypical pro athlete. Not to mention a very spotty record. He probably has some of the best natural talent ever ,but his poor work ethic and substance abuse has made it impossible for him to sustain a steady professional standing in the PGA.

Quoted from TwilightZone

Let's be honest, when we cheer for the Sens/Habs/Toronto, etc. who are we really cheering for? A bunch of hired guns with very few (if any) of the players actually being from the city. So where's the harm in cheering your country of heritage during the World Cup? None, provided you don't riot when they win  

I think the main difference between cheering for your "home" country and cheering for a hockey team from a particular city is one of autonomy.  Although some people probably support teams from other countries, I imagine the most fervant flag-wavers have familial ties with that country and automatically support that team.  Sort of like religion ~ sure, some people question their religion, but most people just go along with the religion that was imposed upon them from an early age.  Whereas it is much more likely that someone from Toronto might still be a Habs, Sens or Wings fan.  

My philosophy is not for everyone.  I hate Nationalism in any form.  Ignoring the obvious hypocrisy of cheering for a country you chose to leave ( or your forefathers chose to leave ),  I think flag-waving is an unflattering human activity.   It is a form of judgement and arrogance, even though it is often harmless.

And on the other issue, if we are voting.... pinball = skill.

Pinball is a skill game. I would equate it to pool, sharp shooting or bowling etc. It's not a sport. Sport involves activity. Tapping two buttons is hardly activity unless your Rick Stetta.

I hate soccer too,my only wish is the France team win the championship quickly

I love this thread! My 2 cents...typing this post requires lots of skill; I have to hit the correct keys in the correct order without hitting other keys at the same time

Those &%$#$% flags are annoying; however it is almost always fun to watch anyone that is the best at what they do; whether that be playing pinball or watching a Football match. Life is tedious and we all find ways to entertain ourselves. Simply put we eat and sleep and maybe procreate; everything else just fills the time. I like to play pinball, travel , play sports, play with my wife , eat good food, see crazy stuff, and take long walks on the beach…OK not the last one.

Anyways I get the resentment but I will watch some matches and I am sure I will be entertained. I like the crazy fans too!

PS Vengence, if you film yourself playing pinball and post it, I’ll watch that too!

I guess this is the wrong forum to trivialize pinball....what was I thinking

p.s. I say playing darts takes more skill than playing pinball

Quoted from Hippochrome

p.s. I say playing darts takes more skill than playing pinball

How??

Quoted from Jester

Vengence, if you film yourself playing pinball and post it, I’ll watch that too!

Ask and yee shall receive

http://www.youtube.com/user/VengeanceMM

Not enough goals for me.

If Canada qualified for the World Cup I would definitely cheer for Canada first and the Netherlands second but since they din't qualify (AGAIN) I have no choice but to cheer on my second favorite. Hup Holland!
Just because I live in Ottawa does that mean I have to cheer for the Senators? No way! I'm a Canadiens fan and I will always be a Canadiens fan eventhough I don't live in Montreal. I saw a lot of Blackhawk flags on cars in Ottawa during their cup run. Should they not be alowed to cheer and express their passion for their team? I have no problem with that.

Quoted from heinekenlvr

If Canada qualified for the World Cup I would definitely cheer for Canada first and the Netherlands second but since they din't qualify (AGAIN) I have no choice but to cheer on my second favorite. Hup Holland!
Just because I live in Ottawa does that mean I have to cheer for the Senators? No way! I'm a Canadiens fan and I will always be a Canadiens fan eventhough I don't live in Montreal. I saw a lot of Blackhawk flags on cars in Ottawa during their cup run. Should they not be alowed to cheer and express their passion for their team? I have no problem with that.

Exactly my point.  You might cheer for the Habs even if the Sens are still in the playoffs, but no one from Portugal is going to root for England or any other team as long as Portugal is still playing.  The former is considered acceptable while the latter would be considered treason.

Quoted from Vengeance

How??

The "active" action of throwing a sharp little object on target (at a very small target, on less).

I would call pinball a more "passive" action. Your only connection to the game is two little buttons, and you can randomly chimp the flippers and still achieve a good score....and before you say it....nudging doesn't count (nudging is cheating)

Try randomly chucking darts at a board...odds are the person wont even hit the board.

Quoted from Hippochrome

The "active" action of throwing a sharp little object on target (at a very small target, on less).

I would call pinball a more "passive" action. Your only connection to the game is two little buttons, and you can randomly chimp the flippers and still achieve a good score....and before you say it....nudging doesn't count (nudging is cheating)

Try randomly chucking darts at a board...odds are the person wont even hit the board.

Adam is going to rip this argument all to pieces....I'll let him have the honour.