I tought with the guy from Starburst yesterday and he told me that we gone be surprise with the next Stern,we gone know at next august,he seem to said that is not a movie theme.Also maybe another Spiderman after 6th movie (long shot)
Also I tought with him for commantite from Starburst for pinball tournament in Montreal and he was very happy with that,also he's ready to bring some machine and that is not a rumour

I think somebody post about the next Stern was on the NBA theme..

One more step for a pinball event in MTL! Lâche pas!

NBA has already been released. It's my understanding that the next theme after NBA will be Big Buck Hunter.

And after that dismal failure, I'm pretty sure the next theme after BBH will be a really fun game called Bankruptcy and Foreclosure. I hear it will have Chapter 11 multiball and a neat hurry-up mode called "Follow the Bouncing Cheque".

There is also the rumour of a rerun of Lord Of The Rings.

And the rumour that Stern will be sold to interests in Australia.

Maybe Stern should just license M.Madness for a short term profit?  

A licensed remake of TZ might work too!

Wonder if BBH is going to be a rework ala FG/Shrek?

Shrek was a rework of FG. NBA a rework of Space Jam. I see a pattern forming here.

Quoted from necro_nemesis

I see a pattern forming here.

When you layoff (fire) most of your development team, what else can you expect.

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Wonder if BBH is going to be a rework ala FG/Shrek?

Shrek was a rework of FG. NBA a rework of Space Jam. I see a pattern forming here.

Probably. Funny thing is BBH the video games are HUGE in the US. I personally find them boring as all hell. But then again, I am not big on hunting. But the games are slow as hell.

There is a turkey.

Shoot the pale one, it is a male.

Congrats. You shot the turkey.

... it's like a shooter game on Ritalin.

But hey... in the southern US, I guess they love it, so chances are the pin would be a success even if it is a rehash, merely becuase of the theme. Slap some camo paint on the cab, put a couple of plastic shotguns here and there on the playfield, and change the beer can for a turkey. You are bound to see one in a good-ole-boy bar.

My money is on Harry Potter...  oh wait, that would actually be a smart choice.  

I've also heard Shrek reruns might be coming.

WTF would a Starburst guy know that the rest of the internet wouldn't? Salesmen know nothing, in my experience. They just make mess up to make their customers feel special.

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he told me that we gone be surprise with the next Stern,we gone know at next august,he seem to said that is not a movie theme.

Maybe its a TV theme like CSI, WOF, or 24?    

Knowing Gary...he is probably making a Beverly Hills 90210 pinball.  After all, his previous company made a special pin for the creator of the show.

Come to think of it... I am trying to think of pinballs that became hugely successful from a TV theme alone.

Twilight Zone
?
?

BBH is next.  FG may be re-run.  Collector edition LOTR may be possible if they get enough toys.  After that, X-files with less software.  lol.

If Gary is making the decisions my money is on Hanna Montana using AP as the platform.

And that BS about someone in Australia buying Stern...it's crap.  Was a prank to make fun of Wayne and his moles.  Buying NOS parts from IPB is money in the bank.  Buying Stern is like hating your money and burning it right now.

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If Gary is making the decisions my money is on Hanna Montana using AP as the platform.

Sure... I can see it now... a Hannah Montana pinball machine at your local biker bar.

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Maybe its a TV theme like CSI, WOF, or 24?    

Knowing Gary...he is probably making a Beverly Hills 90210 pinball.  After all, his previous company made a special pin for the creator of the show.

Come to think of it... I am trying to think of pinballs that became hugely successful from a TV theme alone.

Twilight Zone
?
?

I don't know about HUGELY successful... but TV theme:

Family Guy
World Series of Poker (technically...)
TFTC
Rescue 911

All we need now is another pin based on a stupid TV show... I can just see it now... the most boring pin ever:

Coronation Street, the pinball

Quoted from Monkeybug

Maybe its a TV theme like CSI, WOF, or 24?    

Knowing Gary...he is probably making a Beverly Hills 90210 pinball.  After all, his previous company made a special pin for the creator of the show.

Come to think of it... I am trying to think of pinballs that became hugely successful from a TV theme alone.

Twilight Zone
?
?

Seems to me The Simpson's Pinball Party is a pretty succesful Pinball/TV series combo, Same with Family Guy. Addams Family although the AF Game is based on the 1st movie which is based on the TV Series, Some pretty popular titles and good games there.

Dave

Further to Pins Only comment, the original DE Simpson's made money hand over fist. I remember when it was first put on location in the University arcade. It had a HUGE line up of people waiting to play it. The next time I saw that kind of response to a pinball was RFM. I miss that type of public excitement about a pinball

Duane

The trouble with themes right now is that pinball is pretty much a non factor in terms of marketing value.  The real good themes right now like Harry Potter, Transformers, Star Trek don't want or could care less about pinball.  And Stern wouldn't be able to afford them even if the licenses were available.  So you're stuck with remakes.  There's already grumblings that some distributors are blowing out CSI's and 24's and NBA's.  That pretty much tells ya the state of Stern right about now.  I don't think redoing FG will help when it was all that successful in the first place.  LOTR will be alright but not a Stern/pinball saver.  

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Sure... I can see it now... a Hannah Montana pinball machine at your local biker bar.

It will fit right in with the 17 reruns of Harley Davidson and the 12 reruns of Playboy pinballs.  

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There's already grumblings that some distributors are blowing out CSI's and 24's and NBA's.    

?Do you have a link???

I want a CSI but not at full price. If the blowout is similar to the WPT/WOF then I'm in. I just haven't seen any references to this on RGP. I assume it's an American distributer you are talking about. Post the link please.

Thanks
ME

I heard that it will be a "Andy Griffith Show" Pinball..... focusing around the Town of Mayberry and having Oppie, Andy, Aunt Bea, and of cousre Deputy Barney Fife, Gomer & Goober Pyle...

Should be a SMASH!!!!

If not that, perhaps Sanford and Son?????

That's what I heard anyway... and NO - I will not reveal my sources.

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?Do you have a link???

I want a CSI but not at full price. If the blowout is similar to the WPT/WOF then I'm in. I just haven't seen any references to this on RGP. I assume it's an American distributer you are talking about. Post the link please.

I did a search on rgp and there was a discussion with Premium Pinballs stating he knew some distributors are "blowing" these titles out. Kind of surprising as 24 is really fun. I don't know about the other titles as I haven't played them.

Here is the link:

http://groups.google.com/group.....csi#b933bfcd95b8d3f3

Quoted from medvet

?Do you have a link???

Good to see that therapy is working.

I heard munsters

You know what? I have no problem with reusing existing designs like they did with Shrek. Of course, this will diminish any sales on the collector side, but I am sure that distributors don't care.

As for releasing reissues... I don't know. I guess if it is done within a close time frame of first production, sure. But LOTR was first produced in 2003. The movie is long gone. People don't care about the theme anymore, thus distributors won't warm up to it. what they should do is put a new theme on an LOTR design, new DMD animation and then they are done.

And use an original theme. The money you save on licensing stays in your pocket. Who cares about 24 (first aried in 2001...), Family Guy (already cancelled once...), CSI (first aired in 2000, in their ninth season...near death)? Movie themes? Same thing... when is the last time ANY of you looked at one of the LOTR movies? A couple of years? Shrek is cute and all, but can we move on, especially after the third movie?

Another proof that heavy licensing costs burden the machine... Indiana Jones. Everybody complains that it is overly simple and seemingly incomplete. Maybe it is because Gary blew the budget on licensing.  

i don't know... I am kind of getting tired and overall unimpressed with all the new stuff coming along. Unless some fresh ideas come along, Stern is doomed. Sorry to say.

I still believe Williams had it right with P2K, and even better today with Nucore. Someone at Stern needs to come up with a new pin design that is way more cost effective, like using a generic main harness so all yopu have that is custom is between the light/solenoid and the harness, use LCD screens instead of DMDs (used for the last 18 years!!!), use a simple computer with custom software instead of custom boardsets for which parts are impossible/hard to get.

Hey gary... you like to brag that your pins have more wiring than a Ford Taurus... well, start building them more efficiently by having more common components and simple hardware like on cars. Man, I have no idea why no one has done this yet...

I don't know why they haven't gone to addressable devices and gotten rid of that wire loom. Even if they put in a couple of expansion boards to reduce the wire between the pf and the head.

I wouldn't be bragging about the amount of work required when your just going about it in a way that is just plain dumb.

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As for releasing reissues... I don't know. I guess if it is done within a close time frame of first production, sure. But LOTR was first produced in 2003. The movie is long gone. People don't care about the theme anymore, thus distributors won't warm up to it. what they should do is put a new theme on an LOTR design, new DMD animation and then they are done.

LOTR *is* being reproduced.. it's a LE version, limited to 300 with gold-mirrored backglasses and numbered certificates of authenticity.

Quoted from machine.slave

LOTR *is* being reproduced.. it's a LE version, limited to 300 with gold-mirrored backglasses and numbered certificates of authenticity.

Collector-aimed. That's all fine... but they need to make pins to hit the distributor market...

Harley Davidson - 4th Edition    

  At Chicogo expo there was a rumour (or wishful thinking) of an Ironman vs Hulk pinball to coincide with the upcoming movie release.   It does have some potential for some interesting ball lock toys.