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For those of us that may write something in a language that is not understood by all.  I found this translating site to be fairly good and it does it quickly.  

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http://translate.google.com/#
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For those of us that may write something in a language that is not understood by all.  I found this translating site to be fairly good and it does it quickly.  

tks

http://translate.google.com/#


It's actually pretty terrible translating French to English, trust me I use it as much as I can.  


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Exactly.  That's why most translators blow flies.  Never seen one yet that is worth a pinch of racoon turd.  Here is the french and translated english version of this post ~ see if it captures all the nuance :

Exactement. C'est pourquoi la plupart des traducteurs mouches de la viande. Jamais vu un qui vaut encore une pincée de crotte de raton laveur.

Exactly. This is why most translators blow flies. Never seen one that is even a pinch of poop raccoon.


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Exactly.  That's why most translators blow flies.  Never seen one yet that is worth a pinch of racoon turd.  Here is the french and translated english version of this post ~ see if it captures all the nuance :

Exactement. C'est pourquoi la plupart des traducteurs mouches de la viande. Jamais vu un qui vaut encore une pincée de crotte de raton laveur.

Exactly. This is why most translators blow flies. Never seen one that is even a pinch of poop raccoon.


Well, I guess I should say that it is not that bad when you don't throw in too many "slangs" However, after I stopped laughing I would say that it missed the "blow flies" but it got the "pinch of racoon turd" really well.  I simply gave the link in case some people did not know about it. I know it is far from perfect but in some cases it does help. It sure did really good from English to Dutch but I guess when you input slang everything goes out the window.

I am still laughing over the pinch of poop raccoon
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I don't mind it.. you can generally get the gist of what people are saying.  It's just a pain to use sometimes.

That being said, I'm going to make a conscience effort to learn French in the future.  It's just a good skill to have.. bilingual people tend to make more money    Us Anglais folks already have a head start with what.. 5 years of French classes in school?


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It sure did really good from English to Dutch but I guess when you input slang everything goes out the window.


It worked great for Dutch cause I was using it to translate English to Dutch,   I don't speak a lick of Dutch.

I only speak two languages:

English and Bad English.  


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Us Anglais folks already have a head start with what.. 5 years of French classes in school?


I took 10 years of French classes in school and I don't speak a lick.  


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I don't mind it.. you can generally get the gist of what people are saying.  It's just a pain to use sometimes.

That being said, I'm going to make a conscience effort to learn French in the future.  It's just a good skill to have.. bilingual people tend to make more money    Us Anglais folks already have a head start with what.. 5 years of French classes in school?


Since this thread maybe a good start to discuss this I will let you in on a real way to learn French but I have given this advice countless times and only one person followed it with outstanding results.

Here it is:  Buy or subscribe to a French language paper. Something like "Le devoir" etc.  A good reputable paper. Then everyday when you check out the national news....yes in French you pick one or two articles (small at first) then you READ IT OUT LOUD.  Yes out loud.  Of course French English dictionary is a must at first.

HUGE pain at first and a bit of frustration but here is what you get.  First, you get what is happening in Canada and around the world then you practice French and learn new words.  Don't go all out at first and don't burn yourself.  But trust me this really really works but you most likely won't do it........no one does. (snif snif)

That is it, of course having someone to practice with helps but instead of spending a lot of money on internet courses and DVD etc. that you won't finish my technique not only works but is cheap and not boring.

Here you go from one pinhead to another.  Try it and let me know.  Of course, if you decide to go and do it I will be more than happy to coach you in your progress.

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I took 10 years of French classes in school and I don't speak a lick.  


I hear your pain, do you really think I picked up English in school? I was born and raised in Quebec City away from any Anglos thus I had no incentives or did I care at the time...........Although there was that Anglo exchange girl in high school....hmmmmmmmmm better left for another day
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HOLY mess... NOW I get it... THAT's why people hate Gottliebs.... because they actually had French speech and text roms in them!!!

To be honest guys... an extremely small percentage of people create a stink over the language thing.

... just like that idiot that posted the Nazi thing on Wiki. It stated he lost his job to a French Canadian. Similar situation as any French Canadian who as a kid got beat up by the neighborhood bully, who just ended up being English. So... he hates them all.

Sounds a lot like a racism pattern doesn't it?  Just to add a story, a guy I knew (he was a best friend of mine but I could no longer tolerate his views...) was perfectly normal until he was run into by another car and the guy took off. My friend was quite hurt but noticed that the guy driving the other car was black. from that day on he was as racist as could be.

It's like some people have this thing that they HAVE to find a difference on someone that harmed them in a way, just to justify being angry. The government guy didn't say he lost his promotion to just another guy. The kid that got beat up didn't say that the other kid was just a dumbass, and my old friend didn't say he was hit by a criminal.

It's just another way of self-justification and dissociation versus another person and their actions. Hate breeds hate. And no way will my kids be raised in such a fashion.


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Can't people just stick to the original language of a thread? I have nothing against French but it's jarring to see one message in one language and then switch to another.

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Impossible de personnes seulement s'en tenir à la langue d'origine d'un fil? Je n'ai rien contre le français, mais c'est choquant à voir un message dans une langue et ensuite passer à un autre.


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Can not people just stick to the original language of a thread? I have nothing against the French, but it's shocking to see a message in one language and then move on to another.


That was pretty close, but it confused the language French with the French people. Confusing...


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