J'ai jamais acheté de Pat,j'ai parlé une couple de fois avec lui,c'a l'air d'un bon jack,c'tun vendeur pis... Y'en a des bin pire j'penses sur le site.Lui au moins y s'en cache pas.

ok here we go! to first start i would just like to say HI and IM BACK ON TRACK! for all thoses happy customers! as for thoses others that are not happy...well  theres just 2 of them and i wont have to tell you there names! well i cant satisfy everybody that's for sure...there always special people out there that are never happy! ive sold lots of machines over years and never had a problem before maaca arrived!(weird NO)!!!! 95% OF MY CUSTOMER ARE FULLY SATISFIED! you could always check ebay and see there to everybody is happy! Now back to this stupid post from this morning( i wont say from who) ok this is the story! i was looking to buy a pool table for my new place and i was recommended to go see JEAN BILLARD here in gatineau(great service i was told and cheap) so i walk in there and the owner/salemans gave me good info and service on pool tables!then i seen  demoman in corner and i ask him ? HOW MUCH FOR THAT? he responded to me 1895$ + tx!!!!!! i then said like everybody in there right mind that no pinball machines, i said wow that too much money! he then asked ? what is it worth? i said max 1300$ youre lucky  1500$ , but i also explained to the guy that me and him and not the same , he is a buisness and can sell games high like that! like regent and starburst! they dont have the same clientele as us ....so the guy asks again ok how much would you sell this in youre pinball world? and then told him again at 1300$ its a good deal! he look offended by what i said! this was not my goal to offend anybody! but please i a demoman was for sale here on maaca at 1500$ it would not sell! i just sold one this week to a fellow maaca member with a n.o.s plastic set,car,books etc...AND I SOLD IT FOR 1200$, last week my buddy in montreal also a member here on maaca he bought one in great shape for 1000$ ....so was i wrong by saying that price to the owner! maybe ,but i did not see anything wrong by telling him the thruth! after the conversation about the pool table he ask me if i could bring him  some machines for that kind of money ? i told him yes and never been back there since....WHY well its not my score and i feel like: if i would do that i would step on someone else is score.. that is not mine so i never called him back!!!! but i could call him back...i have a bunch of machines here... i could put there on consingment and make good cash with them!!!!!! and i dont! why well a fellow member is doing that for jean billard and he was there first and this is not my customer but someone elses...so i stay away...so i did not hurt anybody sell by saying that ! i was just talking to the manager! as for steph well i never dealt with him before! just been to is place a couple of years back and never got to make deal with him, due to full prices on all is machines...and did i ever complained? NO.... life goes on.....as for me being a seller and not a collector that is true!!!!!!!!!! you guys are right....im a player that gets bored of them really quick like most of us....so i dont stick too nothing i could always get another one! ( that is my theory)... so i sell them quick! and always  a good price(its the only way to sell something).I have delt with lots of people on here and have had always kept everybody happy over the years execpt for that JOUST story coming up again...let me repeat ,myself on that! i had bought the thing first from the guy for 1000$ and some body(steph) called the guy and offered 1500$ ...so the game started from there...i finally paid after pick up 2600$ for the joust project..and put lots of time and money to get it going and nice...and solt it for 4000$ first time it then years i actually made more then 200$-300$on a game...wow so im a basterd for that? its youre call on that one....but i would like to make something clear to all the other members out that are reading this ...first of all if i sell high i dont sell! right! so why so many games whent thru my hands in the last years! you tell me !i must be doing something right...and if you want 1000$ for a game are you gonna post it for that amount? no then you will get offers of 750$ right? so please guys before you post people names and comments on here please make sure you have youre story straight before you write stupid mess... my names is all i have in this small world we call pinball! and im trying very hard too keep it CLEAN! but one comment f___k's it up very quick! i never sold a freddy for 2400$ or a dracula for 2600$ like some of you guys did before( i wont say names) and we never heard any bullshit about it on maaca ! why? well i dont no! im not stealing people money from them like steve anderson a.k.a whatever......! SO WHY ALL THE FUSS>>>IF YOU THINK MY PRICES ARE HIGH >>>WELL DONT BUY AND SHUT UP! IF YOU LIKE MY PRICES WELL YOURE MORE THEN WELCOME TO DROP BY AND TRY IT OR I WILL DUE MY BEST TO SEND YOU THE BEST PICTURES! AND IF YOURE ARE A UNHAPPY CUSTOMER BEFORE POSTING ANYWHERE ALWAYS LET THE OTHER NO BEFORE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD ABOUT IT! BETWEEN MEN!

Quoted from sirtype

as for steph well i never dealt with him before! just been to is place a couple of years back and never got to make deal with him, due to full prices on all is machines

I was selling a nice F-14 for $700. (only needed a new beacon motor)
I paid $800 for it, but needed it out fast, so was willing to take a small loss.

You offered me $500 (..for a nice, fully working f-14...),
.... and then proceeded to tell me you had a guy looking
for one who was willing to pay you $1000.

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execpt for that JOUST story coming up again...let me repeat ,myself on that! i had bought the thing first from the guy for 1000$ and some body(steph) called the guy and offered 1500$ ...so the game started from there...i finally paid after pick up 2600$

Umm, no, that's not quite how the story went...
[...here we go again...]

To be fair though, I think the seller played us both.
The story, as I know it,  is that the seller was originally asking $600 for it.
I called pretty early in the morning and asked if the game was still available.
He told me that yes is was, but someone told him it was worth $1000, not $600.

Looking back, this was probably BS on the sellers part.
The $1000 was the price he probably spoke to Pat about,
but all the seller told me was that he was looking for more than $600,
he never told me the game was sold.

So I offered him $1000.
He said "what if someone offers more ? ".
So I asked him how much he would want to Guarantee the game to me.
He said $1200.   I said OK.
So I told him point blank, I'm giving you $1200 and it's off the market.  He said OK.

I called back in the afternoon to get his exact address and to setup a meeting time for the next day.
( it was a 3hr drive ).  We agreed to meet at noon.
Everything appeared to be OK.

That night, around 7:00pm, he called me to say that someone offered him $1500
and wanted to know if I wanted to pay more.
At that point I told him to f--k himself and to get bent.
I pointed out how we had a deal and he completed re-neg'd on it
and the last thing I wanted to do was to play his BS game.

I even told him that if I found out who was buying the game,
I'd tell the buyer to drop their offer back to $600 because there was no way
I was going to deal with a guy who such a blatant liar no matter
what price he would be asking, and he deserved to get a piece of his own medicine
(... I didn't know the buyer was Pat at this point, I only found out the next day... )

So for the record, my one-time offer was $1200, and this was done with the understanding
that the game was still available.  I never agreed to pay one more cent,
and never got into a bidding war.

If the seller told Pat I offered $1500, that's just another one of his (the seller) lies.

As for why Pat ended-up paying $2600 for it, that's beyond me...

Like I said shortly after all this happened, and am repeating now,
the true bad guy in all this was the seller. Pat and I just got in the cross-fire.
I was bitter at the time, but have long since buried the hatchet.

So...,  now that I've shot that dead horse one more time,
let's try to move beyond that...

I'm sure Pat has had many great deals, and is well-respected by many.
I'm also sure he will continue to have alot of nice pins for sale and make many people happy.

I'm sorry I re-opened this cancerous issue,   (...although you can blame Adam for that...)
and I don't want people to pass judgment based on my views.

... now let's never speak of this again...


Steph

Great... now everyone said their part.

Like Jackie Moon says:

E.L.E.!!! EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!

lol

This being said, got a cheap project Pat?  

I heard he strangles kittens as well.....but that's just a rumor.

Quoted from Hippochrome

I heard he strangles kittens as well.....but that's just a rumor.

Tastes like chicken.

I knew Pat lepage for trading a rough but working well star trek for a rough but suppositly well working Harlem Globetrotter . Worse move i ever made .

I just want to know where that mint DM with spare parts for $1300 is so I can pick it up.

Still makes me chuckle that Joust was passed over first and then got in a feeding frenzie. I have never witnessed such hullabaloo over such an incredibly boring game.

Quoted from necro_nemesis

I just want to know where that mint DM with spare parts for $1300 is so I can pick it up.

Guess I got lucky finding a HUO DM for $1200, and only 5 minutes from my house!

D

Quoted from sirtype

i finally paid after pick up 2600$ for the joust project..and put lots of time and money to get it going and nice...and solt it for 4000$ first time it then years i actually made more then 200$-300$on a game

First I want to say that i have never had any problems with Pat, pretty straight up and understanding guy.

This being said, I want to say what I know about the Joust deal...I watched the auction on Ebay until the last second and I know it went for 4500$ USD, I also know that it took Geof (the guy who repaired the Joust) 3 to 4 hours to repair it, so I don't think 3 to 4 hours would cost that much.
Geof repaired my Joust in about 3 hours and charged me 100$.
Lets be generous and say it cost Pat 200$ worth of parts.
Work time=      100$
parts=              200$
game cost=      2600$       for a total of 2800$. Game sold for 4500$ USD, so that's more than 2000$ CAD
                                      in profit.

That's the only part I know about. Who else knows about the other deals Pat are talking about on his post??? Maybe he says the truth for the rest....or.....maybe not?? Their's an expression in french that goes like this "a la gang on sait tout", I would appreciate if someone could please translate.

Sorry Pat, but I hate lies, I could'nt leave things like you described them, I just had to say the truth.
You can tell them about the Junk Yard I sold you if you are mad at me, no problem. As I explained to you...I'll explain to MAACA members too.
Claude.

I take back that statement on Joust. Although the game is boring as all hell the controversy and rediculous road trips associated with that pin make it quite fascinating.