Quoted from ken_cinder

Now now...I played 4 years of football in high school on the offensive line and I hide my inner nerd for the most part. I prefer the term "Geek"!
I lack the glasses, pocket protector and lack of muscle mass to qualify for "Nerd".

Quoted from beatmaster

yeah gonna get myself one!

funny when people say apple steal from others, when in fact its the other way around...

best operating system in the world hands down!
best concept, looks, no doubt! no viruses, no freezing (blue screen of death)
most people say bad things about apple, thats because they never own one, or had any real experience with it!
you can drive a lada until you try a porche.
sure the ipad is a little expensive, its a gadget.

yep a like apple, was always on apple all my life and will never change for a half working windooooow...

hey thats just my opinion!

Really I guess you drank the kool aid(chugged it by the sound of things). Some people have to justify the Apple tax they paid.  I guess there is no antivirus required for Apple OS since there are no viruses? I'm typing this on a Dell 10v that can run both windows and Mac OS (Hackintosh) so why is it always more for a Apple computer.  I guess you forgot the batteries in IPods’ melting and Apple didn't do anything about it.  My laptop makes me money and trust me I cannot do that with a Mac.

Everyone can spend their money any way they choose and that is alright, but Apple will not get any of mine just for their business practices

Quoted from Hippochrome

Oh...low blow. But no. lol

Quoted from ken_cinder

Oh...low blow. But no. lol

How about this....

First thing I thought of was turning one into a touch-screen jukebox hanging on the wall.

Quoted from Sparky

So I basically need a new computer... Apple or PC? Ahhh... the famous debate...

Well, you could do what I did. After all, an Apple computer is just a regular Intel box in a pretty case with terrible cooling, substandard motherboards and a big pricetag.

I run OS X on my homebrew box. The specs are:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P MoBo
Intel C2Q Q9550
Nvidia 8800GTX 640MB
Western Digital Black Edition 1TB HDD x3 (and a few other random HDDs)
LG DVD-RW
Some random Linksys WiFi card.
Acer AL2216W display x2
MacOS X 10.5.8/10.6.2

OS X flys on this pig. And it cost a lot less than an iMac spec'ed similarly at the time.

Quoted from Cobra99

Really I guess you drank the kool aid(chugged it by the sound of things). Some people have to justify the Apple tax they paid.  I guess there is no antivirus required for Apple OS since there are no viruses? I'm typing this on a Dell 10v that can run both windows and Mac OS (Hackintosh) so why is it always more for a Apple computer.  I guess you forgot the batteries in IPods’ melting and Apple didn't do anything about it.  My laptop makes me money and trust me I cannot do that with a Mac.

Everyone can spend their money any way they choose and that is alright, but Apple will not get any of mine just for their business practices

i guess we can talk all night long about whats wrong with apple and whats wrong with pcs (window vista... on and on)
or what did microsoft copied from apple.
i also make money with my mac.
and i also can run windooow on my mac (mac was first running the other system with virtual pc more than 10 years ago)
yes it wasn't nice from apple not to do anything about the ipod problem, same thing about what bill gates did with window's upgrade years ago! practices?
like i said the list can go on and on...
yes i have to agree with you apple is expensive, but like any other things if you dont have money, well, don't buy it...

i guess maybe because i always had a mac, thats why i like it, but i did work with pc, well i just don't like it.
overall from the system to the layout, simplicity of the environment and all, thats why i like mac.


all we can do is, let's agree to disagree

Quoted from ken_cinder

Another reason for hating Apple? Open Source THEFT. We're not talking "Oops we used it and didn't share", they have flagrant disregard for open source licensing.
Hell OSX may now be based on the MACH Kernel, but previous Apple OS' were not, they used a pretty plain BSD Kernel and nothing was shared, even though the majority of their work...wasn't even their work. Even now they're still thieves, just not to the same degree.

I'm no Apple fan, I do like their OS, but their hardware is substandard mess (imho). However, you should check your facts a little.

http://opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/
There's all the OSS components to OS X 10.6.

I mean, if you really want to get down to it, here is the 10.6.2 kernel from which you can roll your own OS X (a la LFS style hackery):
http://opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-1486.2.11/

Quoted from karmatose

I'm no Apple fan, I do like their OS, but their hardware is substandard mess (imho). However, you should check your facts a little.

http://opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/
There's all the OSS components to OS X 10.6.

I mean, if you really want to get down to it, here is the 10.6.2 kernel from which you can roll your own OS X (a la LFS style hackery):
http://opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-1456.1.26/

Psst...that's the Mach Kernel they really have no choice but to "share" their adaptations of, not exactly enough to simply "Roll your own OS X". You don't really, truly believe that everything they've got rolled into their OS...is shared, when it should be if it's been based on something else, do you?
Their source shares are nothing more than "Tossing the dog a bone, to shut him up". I'm not saying they haven't come up with some of their own stuff, but they certainly have been stealing bits and pieces of others work and not giving credit by sharing what they've created with it or even acknowledge it (Of course not! That would be admitting they stole it). Fire up your Google engines...you'll find plenty of proof.

Linux for the win  

My 2 cents worth.

Quoted from ken_cinder

Psst...that's the Mach Kernel they really have no choice but to "share" their adaptations of, not exactly enough to simply "Roll your own OS X". You don't really, truly believe that everything they've got rolled into their OS...is shared, when it should be if it's been based on something else, do you?
Their source shares are nothing more than "Tossing the dog a bone, to shut him up". I'm not saying they haven't come up with some of their own stuff, but they certainly have been stealing bits and pieces of others work and not giving credit by sharing what they've created with it or even acknowledge it (Of course not! That would be admitting they stole it). Fire up your Google engines...you'll find plenty of proof.

Well, you wouldn't have Aqua as that part of the OS is closed source, and yeah, you couldn't run OS X software, but you certainly could build the OS X kernel and run Gnome or KDE on top of it. Kind of what the OpenDarwin project did back in the day. All the IOKit stuff and GCC is there, plus basic hardware support stuff is available. If you needed support for any other hardware, you could just take the .kext's from an OS X install.

I mean, there'd be no advantage to say installing FreeBSD, but you could roll your own "OS X".

Quoted from Hippochrome

How about this....

THanks for helping in my defense Hippo!   I'm a nerd, I got the glasses, bad clothing and stupid hobbies to prove it...