http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180246520922


...not that I'm buying one anymore !


Steph

I remember reading the details of your "almost" purchase a year ago and the fallout the occured afterwards here on the group.  Out of Curiousity why are you not interested in getting one anymore?  

cause he got one the lucky SOB  

Quoted from Vengeance

cause he got one the lucky SOB  

http://www.arcade.chezsuys.com/Joust.html




Steph

Congrats!  Looks great too!  How long were you trying to acquire a Joust?

Quoted from goldfinger88

Congrats!  Looks great too!  How long were you trying to acquire a Joust?

I've always had a "soft spot" for Joust,
but it didn't develop into a "must have" itch until about 2 years ago.


A buddy of mine here in Ottawa picked one up (project) for $700 about 3 years ago.
(got it from Helge of all people...). It's been sitting in a storage
locker ever since and I tried everything to buy it from him...but he won't sell.

I also remember another one for sale not too far from me about 3 years ago
for $2000.  At that time I thought that was just "stooopid" money.

Then, from about Oct 2006 to Apr 2007,  I saw no less than 5 sell on ebay,
all for well over $4K.
(...one of them being the "infamous" machine that I was "supposed"
to get, but that the seller screwed me and sold it to someone else
for more money. I think Pat paid $1500 for it, and flipped it for $4500 ! )

[  That's when I realized supply and demand had kicked-in
and this pin was now in the "big price" league.  ]

Around that time, another MAACA member (PinballWizard)
had a partially assembled/restored one for $2500,
(the rusted out one Sparky saw at Alouette for $1500)
but the machine didn't "feel" right...

(..very obvious touch-ups on the PF, the cabinet had laminate panelling
fixes that didn't match the original, the machine was completly apart
with pieces all over the place.  I would never have been sure that I
got all the pieces .... it just didn't seem to be worth $2500 )

After that I was resigned to accept the fact that if I really wanted
a nice one, I'd have to bite the bullet and pay the asking price.

So when one turned-up for sale on this forum late last year,  I didn't hesitate...
I rented a trailer and drove 10-hr round-trip to Quebec city to pick it up.
(...which was nothing compared to the round-trip to CALIFORNIA
that the seller had done to pick it up in the first place !  )

So overall, it took about 18 months from the time I wanted one
until the time I got one.  But truth be told, most of that time
was spent accepting the price hike I'd have to pay.
If I had been willing to pay $4K earlier, I likely wouldn't  have had to wait 18 months.

Interestingly though, after the "flurry" of Jousts I saw for sale in 2007,
this current auction is the only I've seen so far this year,
and there are no listings on PinballClassifieds.com.

Maybe people are waiting for the "next" price hike before selling off !    

(..but not me, I'm keeping this one ... eventhough my wife can't understand why !)

Cheers,
Steph

Good story, glad that it is with someone who really appreciates the game!  Now the million dollar question... do you play it or is it a collectors piece?

Quoted from goldfinger88

Now the million dollar question... do you play it or is it a collectors piece?

A bit of both....

It's no surprise that the game is really quite bad as a single-player game.

I tried it solo a few times, but when you've got LOTR, TZ and TSPP in 'da house,
... well let's just say that the level of "depth" isn't quite the same.

It's great at parties and gets played non-stop,
but when it's just me, ...no, it doesn't get played much.

.... but that's OK !

I'm perfectly fine in admitting I bought it for the "collector factor",
and only play it at parties...

Truth be told, I'm probably more of "collector" than a "player" anyways...

My wife on the other hand, doesn't understand why I've got this "boat anchor" I never play
when I could use that valuable space for another machine SHE would rather play !  

I asked her the same question about her fine China,  ...and that usually ends that debate  !



That said, I should host a MAACA meeting this summer so I can fire it up !



Cheers,
Steph

Interesting...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=180246520922

...bought by the same MAACA member who sold me his 6 months ago...


Steph

actually, what's interresting is the fact that it's cheaper in can $

     US $4,604.44      
     (approximately C $4,575.89)  

Quoted from Mrhide

actually, what's interresting is the fact that it's cheaper in can $

     US $4,604.44      
     (approximately C $4,575.89)  

Yah, I noticed that...

Who would have ever thought that even just a year ago
when our "dollar" was worth 85cents  back in Apr 2007 .

Then again, Paypal will continue to screw us all by providing
a crappy exchange rate of   $1 US = 98c CDN


Steph

Quoted from Steph

Then again, Paypal will continue to screw us all by providing
a crappy exchange rate of   $1 US = 98c CDN

Steph

Actually i think everyone are taking a fee to convert devises, not only Paypal. Your own bank will charge you as well and maybe even more in some case..

Anyone knows where devises can be traded equally ?

Quoted from Azatotht

Actually i think everyone are taking a fee to convert devises, not only Paypal.

True, but Paypal is worst than most.

Banks will charge 1%-2%,  but Paypal is  3%-4%.

Quoted Text

Anyone knows where devises can be traded equally ?

Nowhere really...  everyone will want a "service fee".

It's merely a question of finding who has the lowest fees.


Steph

43 hour drive ....

You know there is a thing called "shipping" right ?! I believe at the current price of gaz, 300$ would be a bargain!

Best bet, to save money, would be to have it shipped to a location closest to you at the border. You will save a shitload by not having your transport cross over the border. Pick it up yourself in the US then.

Most shippers have terminals close to the border... they might agree to hold it there.

Quoted from ALJO

now I've got to go pick it up in Washington state (43 hour drive). This time it should be keeps.

Whao...think about this for a second...


Quebec City to Spokane Washington = 4500 KM  !   (each way ! )

Return trip = 90hr of pure driving,  6 full days including rest-stops and hotels.

Gas ( assuming a very good 15L/100 for a large vehicle ) = 1350 L @ $1.00L (US Gas price) = $1350


When you add food and lodging, you're looking at WAY over $1500 for the trip.
(...not to mention driving for a Hellish 6 days straight ! )

Even if shipping is $600, that's still a way better deal...

Besides, like others have said... if you have it shipped to a US city near the Canadian Border,
you can probably find shipping for $300-400 .


...then again,  I know you drove to California to pick-up the earlier Joust,
so I guess you know what you're getting yourself into .  I guess you like driving !  

Gee... ,  I "almost" feel guilty about buying that one  from you six months ago...  

Bonne chance...

Steph

Hé Claude, j'vais devoir retourner chez toi pour l'essayer cette Joust..... A première vue elle ne semble pas trop compliquée mais juste le fait de jouer a 2 sur une pinball sa doit etre vraiment trippant!!!!
(J'pourrais en profiter pour redescendre avec une TZ....si elle est a vendre  )

Quoted from joce

A première vue elle ne semble pas trop compliquée mais juste le fait de jouer a 2 sur une pinball sa doit etre vraiment trippant!!!!

Great novelty/collector pin ... but not so much of a "deep" game.

Great at parties and the occasional head-to-head challenge,
but otherwise not a pin that keeps you coming back for more.

Still....  I LOVE mine and wouldn't trade it for anything...

Good luck to Claude on his quest...


Steph

Quoted from ALJO

thanks for your concern Steph, I appreciate it. This is what I planned: We are 2 drivers, we take turns driving (night and day) one drives while the other sleeps, so, no hotels, it should take about 50 hours to go and about 50 hours to come back (trafic jams allways happen on these trips). I bring a giant lunch for the trip heading Washington, so, no restaurants to go, we take a well deserved shower when we get at the guy's place, load the game and back we are, coming back though, we eat at restaurants. AND THIS TIME "NO CHILDREN"!!!! It'll be waaayyyy easier.  My teenage girl can take care of my 2 younger kids. I've calculated about 700$ of gas maybe 100$ of restaurants (fast food, of course), hoping nothing goes wrong along the way.

Wow... you're a brave  (...or crazy !)  guy !    

I admire your determination.

Bonne route  !

Salut
Steph

North American Van Lines ?
Although not the cheapest, they do door to door delivery...

Or, if the machine can be safely palleted, Forward Air (with insurance).

Bonne chance,
- Sylvain.

You're also missing the cost of your time. If you have to take a week off of work, that should cost a bit of money.

For the love of Odin, could someone hook him up with a shipper?

Hey Claude, Are you coming West and then South if you drive it?? You know where I am heading with this!!     I could help with your Gas costs!!    Let me know

Dave

I've emailed the guy who bought my JP. It's getting shipped to California to get an idea of cost. I think he is using NAVL. I'm sure the cost is less than $800 and you don't have to take off a week from work.

I'll PM you the details once I get word back from him.

I think you are insane to even consider the drive  

Duane

Quoted from TwilightZone

I've emailed the guy who bought my JP. It's getting shipped to California to get an idea of cost. I think he is using NAVL. I'm sure the cost is less than $800 and you don't have to take off a week from work.

I'll PM you the details once I get word back from him.

I think you are insane to even consider the drive  

Duane

That's gotta end up being the pricest JP in history. Was it going to the Spielburg residence?

Quoted from necro_nemesis

That's gotta end up being the pricest JP in history. Was it going to the Spielburg residence?

Some people appreciate quality. If it was documented HUO it would have been even more

Duane

Quoted from ALJO

so, we're at 900$ to pick up this pin. If I can get a lesser shipping quote, then, I'll take it.

Try calling SameDay Right-Away shipping.

http://www.sameday.ca/Index.asp?LangID=EN

They are a Canadian company but transport  to-and-from the US as well.

I've used them to ship some video games within Canada,
and they were VERY reasonably priced.  ( Especially if you pick-up at their terminals
rather than home delivery .  I've had games shipped for about $100 ... )



Steph

méchant road trip ...  

ps: SOIT SUR DE PAS OUBLIER LES PATTES  

Quoted from TwilightZone

Some people appreciate quality.

So why are they buying a DE?

Next thing is your going to try and convince me to buy a Stern!

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Next thing is your going to try and convince me to buy a Stern!

No chance of that, the rules would just confuse you.  

Duane

Quoted from TwilightZone

No chance of that, the rules would just confuse you.  

Duane

After my last session with LOTR during the TOPL playoffs; I have only one rule with regards to Stern..... "Avoid".

Hey Glen did you not paly a few rounds of spiderman at medvets?

Quoted from necro_nemesis

After my last session with LOTR during the TOPL playoffs; I have only one rule with regards to Stern..... "Avoid".

Quoted from ethous

Hey Glen did you not paly a few rounds of spiderman at medvets?

Spiderman? Was there a Spiderman there?

Quoted from necro_nemesis

After my last session with LOTR during the TOPL playoffs; I have only one rule with regards to Stern..... "Avoid".

No worries, you keep avoiding them and throw the bones this way

Duane

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Spiderman? Was there a Spiderman there?

hey I said the same thing

Quoted from ALJO

I've asked for a quote, 875$ wrapped up and shipped to the customs. Have you heard from the guy yet? Must be pretty similar.

I emailed him yesterday and haven't heard back from him yet. He could be busy. Once I get an email, I'll let you know.

Wow!!! I had no idea it was that much. I'm really surprised. I thought it would be in the $500 range.

I guess they are including wrapping the game? The seller won't do that for you? In the case of my sale, I'm wrapping it and strapping it to a pallet. I only asked for $50 to cover materials and time. I'm going to put cardboard between the head and body, cover body with plastic wrap, double layer of cardboard with plastic wrap inbetween, secure head, strap to pallet, and then wrap with plastic wrap again.

Duane

Where do you get all the cardboard for that Duane?

For my move, I packed all my pinballs in essentially the same manner -- less one extra layer of plastic wrap. I got the cardboard from The Brick superstore on Hunt Club. They have TONS of cardboard and are very happy to get it the heck out of there. Any furniture store is a good choice for getting cardboard. See all those sofas, fridges, etc. all set up? They are shipped wrapped with cardboard

Duane

For those interested, the shipping cost from Ottawa to California is $650 USD. Wow! And that's with me wrapping it and making it completely ready for the company. All they have to do is come to my door and get it. Shipping has gone up quite a bit.

Duane

Which is a good reason to buy and sell locally. With the price of gas and shipping, it better be a steal or you really want a road trip if a pin is far away.... says the man who recently drove 11 hrs round trip for two pins.

pins only, how much was shipping to alberta again? 125$ ?

No No No, $135! form Toronto, then it goes up by $100 from Quebec last time I shipped one. Things are going up though, I am gled I am almost done!  

Dave

Quoted from pins only

I am glad I am almost done!   Dave

well he did the drop on my bad cats and picked up pinsonly fish tales and flintstones (plus empty cab).  
  all on time and such.  now off to bed.  wish them all the best.  its a long drive.

Claude has been and gone, Left here about 12:30 Eastern, Headed for Spokane next. Crazy trip, but 2 Very cool guys having a fun trip across the country! Only stayed a few minutes and off to Spokane.

Dave, (Now over full yet again!)  

Here are some Pics of Claude as he arrived with my Games. Everything survived except the 1/2 Cabinet that got hit by a deer! It missed the car but jumped between the car and trailer! The 1/2 Cab has one side broken on it now. No damage to the other games. Claude and Daniel are bith fine.

Dave

Makes the Cambridge road trip seem like a Sunday drive...   ...I guess with the deer Claude's saving money @ the restaurants...

...Crazy Canucks!

Claude.... Tu me fais CAPOTER!!!!.... Je ne croyais pas que tu pouvais tirer 3 pins dans ton trailer avec une Accent!!!!!   FÉLICITATION!!!!

...man...,  this guy will have EARNED his Joust after this road trip !




Steph

That looks like one rickity a$$ trailer  

Quoted from Vengeance

That looks like one rickity a$$ trailer  

Yah, I was thinking that too...

...although it apparently survived a collision with dear...  



Still, I'd be nervous hauling valuable pins in that thing.

I can't wait to hear the stories when he gets back
from this epic trek !




Steph

He has my new Banzai Run in that thing right now, I assume he should be on he way back from picking up the Joust now.

Here is the other crazy part, aside for the ricky a** trailer with expensive pins, No Cell Phone!

Claude is one crazy dude.

*osti* de *colisse*   !!

He'll bring me Necro's Strange Science... so now you understand why we wanted to wrap it up properly!

It's a unique wrapping job! I incorporated half a dozen industrial sized garbage bags into the shrink wrap and as an added bonus banded it all around with 3" wide duct tape on the outside of everything just to make sure the wrapping didn't loosen up. Hope you own a good pair of scissors.

Any idea where the magical mystery tour is at? I know Vengeance is trying to T up a meeting in the city to swap BR for SS, but sitting at a coffee shop for two days straight wasn't part of the plan.

Quoted from Vengeance

That looks like one rickity a$$ trailer  

Where is Claude going:  New Delhi or Bombay to get Joust? he could earn some serious ruppee(s) with his delux moving van while he is there.

Still no word for our cross country adventurers, here is hopping they made it across the border and back with 2 pins in the trailer without problems.  

So Strange Science is at work with me today, was tempting to open her up and play while at work, but don't feel like having to wrap it back up again  

Quoted from Vengeance

So Strange Science is at work with me today, was tempting to open her up and play while at work, but don't feel like having to wrap it back up again  

Bring a pin to work day. I think that should be standard company policy.

There as close to kids as I'm ever going to get, works for me

Quoted from necro_nemesis

Bring a pin to work day. I think that should be standard company policy.

Quoted from joce

Claude.... Tu me fais CAPOTER!!!!.... Je ne croyais pas que tu pouvais tirer 3 pins dans ton trailer avec une Accent!!!!!   FÉLICITATION!!!!

Can an Accent actually pull any trailer (even if total loaded weight is 1000 lbs), and also brake safely ?

Quoted from joe

Can an Accent actually pull any trailer (even if total loaded weight is 1000 lbs), and also brake safely ?

I think that's what qualifies as: "a question you should never ask"...

Mike

I know my Mazada Protege says very specifically in the drivers manual under the towing section:

"Do Not Tow Anything."

I'm not kidding, that is exactly what it says when you look up towing capacity  

I assume the Hyundai Accent would fall into the same category

Quoted from joe

Can an Accent actually pull any trailer (even if total loaded weight is 1000 lbs), and also brake safely ?

my honda element warns you that
750 pounds is the maximum allowable weight for passengers and trunk!

1000 pounds would be a dream... the element does get sluggish when it gets overlo

Quoted from Vengeance

I know my Mazada Protege says very specifically in the drivers manual under the towing section:

"Do Not Tow Anything."
I'm not kidding, that is exactly what it says when you look up towing capacity  

Yeah I've seen that too ... doesn't stop me (or him!)

It's all good.  

People sell hitches for Accents that are good to 2000lbs. Very confusing?


http://www.hitchestogo.com/Hyundai_Hitches.htm
http://hitchestogo.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HTG&Product_Code=24736

Got an update in Claudes Cross Country Adventure, I've now got a meeting time, unfortunatly didn't get to speak to Claude directly missed his call but 8:30 am tommorow is the meeting time to do the switch.  

I'll tell you, Claude brought my Mystery Castle & Dino Eggs in that same Magic Trailer, and it made it from Quebec to Waterloo Ontario, in the winter none the less,
a bit of water did get through the shrink wrap and onto the mystery castle and dino eggs, fortunatly it seemed to only go on the outside cabinet and playfield glass, so a quick cleanup and they were good to go.

That trailer is scary, but it works,

Eric

Quoted from takochef

my honda element warns you that
750 pounds is the maximum allowable weight for passengers and trunk!

Luxury. The manual for my 1989 Pontiac Firefly (3 cylinder) said "Maximum passenger and load capacity: 600 pounds." Think about that. It had four seats. I was riding the rims with four passengers. Trying to get that thing over 110 kms/hr with more than two people in it was a trick in itself.  

ok.

8h30 + 5 / 5 1/2 in TO =  13h30 / 14h00 in Laval

Quoted from cooke

Luxury. The manual for my 1989 Pontiac Firefly (3 cylinder) said "Maximum passenger and load capacity: 600 pounds." Think about that. It had four seats. I was riding the rims with four passengers. Trying to get that thing over 110 kms/hr with more than two people in it was a trick in itself.  

Reminds me of the Suzuki 4X4 I once had. Throttle had two positions to get around; off and matted. 100Kms/hr was only witnessed downhill with a tailwind. Mind you I completely submerged it once. Pulled it out, let it dry, changed the oil and fired it up. Other than it smelling like a swamp for a month all was fine.

We had 3 Pinball from Toronto to Quebec city a few month ago !

Here's a little pic of the 3 pinballs towed by Joce's civic.
They were under the rain half the ride and I can certify that nothing went inside. Everything was well pack and the bottom of the three pins were a supported by wood so they would not touch the bottom of the trailer. As MachineSlave and Ballyboy seen, guys from LA BEAUCE are doing a great job  



Eric

Quoted from Rider

We had 3 Pinball from Toronto to Quebec city a few month ago !

And I really appreciated it!  

Quoted from cooke

Luxury. The manual for my 1989 Pontiac Firefly (3 cylinder) said "Maximum passenger and load capacity: 600 pounds." Think about that. It had four seats. I was riding the rims with four passengers. Trying to get that thing over 110 kms/hr with more than two people in it was a trick in itself.  

Firefly is not a car, it's a scooter on steroids...  rented a  firefly once (it was the only car available) for a reunion trip out to ottawa.. There was a thunderstorm  and massive downpour on the way back, it slowed the car down.. then again there were 3 of us already in there.

Quoted from takochef

Firefly is not a car, it's a scooter on steroids...  rented a  firefly once (it was the only car available) for a reunion trip out to ottawa.. There was a thunderstorm  and massive downpour on the way back, it slowed the car down.. then again there were 3 of us already in there.

That's where a mechanic with an engineering background comes in! I used to rally race with an Innocenti Turbo (which is smaller than a Firefly!). I owned 1 which I raced and 3 for parts. I modified it constantly and by the time I was finished, the 993cc powerplant went from a meek 72hp with 6 psi of boost to 219hp at 16 psi of boost at nearly 8000 rpm on the dyno! I beat the living mess out of 5.0 mustangs on an 1/8 mile. I managed 225km/h on the 15 coming from Saint-Sauveur at 2am one night... ahhh, the years of living dangerously.

One day a buddy of mine needed to have his camping trailer moved 3 kms from where it was... I had a hitch on the Innocenti... so I said, hey, why not...

It was a site to see... a 19-foot camping trailer hooked onto a 1200lb microcar. The front wheels would leave the ground when I would hit a bump in the road!   The car was fine after (clutch took a beating but made it in one piece), but my buddies talked about that for years...

...for anyone who is wondering wtf is an Innocenti, here is an image...

Mine was 1994 Corvette blue, had 15'' mags (barely fit on...) and I had 2 Nissan 300ZX hood scoops on the hood that were functional (I had 2 intercoolers) unlike the fake original one.

...I miss that car.

Was the T.O. RV a go this morning?

Just got into work, my part of this adventure is done

Met Claude at 9:30am, unloaded and loaded the games.  Then realized that I had forgoten to grab my backglass, plastic set and legs from Claude and I forgot to give the SS legs to Claude.  thankfully Claude noticed this as well and called me about 5 mins away from our original meeting point, went and met him and everything worked out just fine.  He is now on the last leg of his trip to Phil's place with SS in tow.  

Quoted from Vengeance

Just got into work, my part of this adventure is done

Met Claude at 9:30am, unloaded and loaded the games.  Then realized that I had forgoten to grab my backglass, plastic set and legs from Claude and I forgot to give the SS legs to Claude.  thankfully Claude noticed this as well and called me about 5 mins away from our original meeting point, went and met him and everything worked out just fine.  He is now on the last leg of his trip to Phil's place with SS in tow.  

Glad to hear that!! I wish we had remembered one of the boxes of parts for me! I am NOT driving out to meet him for some Bolts and Keys!  

I am glad to hear they are still safe and sound!

Did he still have 3 games in the Trailer?

Dave

9h30, unload, load , go back ...

so that's at least 10h if not 10h30 right ?

10h30 + 5 = 15h30

Yep he left me at around 10am after I drove to meet him to pickup the parts I forgot.  

Actually 4 games total.  Joust, Granny and the Gators, Some Soccer game and then the Strange Science.  

Did he seem coherent after 4 days of solid driving ?

Was his trasnmission dragging under the car ?

--

Can't wait to hear the details from Claude himself...




Steph

Suprisngly he seemed pretty alert since he hasn't slept in like 5 days.  Him and his buddy and driving in shifts.

I asked him if he has stopped and he said he stopped for like 2 hours last night.  But one thing I thought of when I got back to the office is he has been going for basically 5 days straight, that's 5 days without a shower in a small Hyundai accent, must be getting pretty ripe in that car

Quoted from Vengeance

Suprisngly he seemed pretty alert since he hasn't slept in like 5 days.  Him and his buddy and driving in shifts.

I asked him if he has stopped and he said he stopped for like 2 hours last night.  But one thing I thought of when I got back to the office is he has been going for basically 5 days straight, that's 5 days without a shower in a small Hyundai accent, must be getting pretty ripe in that car

This is the trip of "Legends".

-   100+ hours of driving in less than 5 days.
-   arguably less than 4 hours of sleep per day
-   cramped in a small space for almost 1 week
-   exceeding every precautionary measure on the car, ...and not having it explode on you...!

...sounds like fun when you're 20, ... not so much so when you're 40 ... !

I vote we call this epic story  "Claude's Excellent Pinball  Adventure "




Steph

How bout CCCC, Claudes Cross Country Classic!

Yea you couldn't pay me enough to do the trip Claude is still doing, but he is in home stretech, just needs to make it to Montreal and he is home free.  

Quoted from Vengeance

that's 5 days without a shower in a small Hyundai accent, must be getting pretty ripe in that car

Actually we had it set up for them to use our Shower etc. But he said they stopped a a Truck Stop that morning along the road.

All things considered, I have to say they were very well prepared.

Dave

well I'm still waiting to hear anything from them ... or see them ( I'm home waiting )

Could be worse, I think they gave Dave a 6 hour time frame window, if I remeber correctly it was somehwere between 6 - 12