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This was one of those typical Kijiji ad situations.
I posted the moment after the ad was posted as I happened to be up late. I was speaking with the owner on my handsfree on the drive to Ottawa the next day and the battery started to die. I had indicated that I was very interested and would put down a deposit but couldn't come up until Monday or Tuesday and that I would call him back on my arrival in Trenton to firm up details.
Well by the time I got to Trenton I'll bet he was getting a host of emails and calls. I called twice that night and got answering machine, and twice the next day and same thing with no return calls.
In a sense I'm partly relieved as I have no room for it, but seems like its becoming all too common for people not to keep their word anymore.
Then there was another Funhouse for $1200 (along with a number of other machines including a TAF). The seller was standup, wouldn't raise his price but gave it to the first emailer who committed (which wasn't me) and then informed everyone else who bid what happened. Now there's a seller who "understands". Can you believe he had a buyer saying that Funhouse was worth $500. Must have been Mr. Anderson!
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Having sold a bunch of things on kijiji and had to put up with the people that say they'll take it and then never ever show up, no matter how "interested" they may sound, I can understand why someone *who owes you nothing* would sell to the first person at their door with cash in hand. It only makes sense.
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It is so sad that this continues to happen, and it is often members on this forum that cause these issues. Someone calls a new ad and sets a time to go see it and then the NEXT guy tells the seller it is worth more, ONLY BECAUSE HE IS PISSED OFF THAT HE DID NOT GET IT. Then the auction starts. Keep seeing and hearing it and it is getting to the point that it is basically a waste of time to respond to these ads.
Sad thing is no matter what anyone says, it will continue to happen. I just find it so selfish for someone to do that.
It has been scientifically proven that light is faster than sound. That is why some people seem brilliant........until they open their mouth!
I know I will be roasted alive for saying this but I don't think it's always bad intent when someone tells a seller "you know, the machine you're selling is worth more". Maybe there's a compassion there for the seller who's just ignorant about the value for them to get proper compensation? Surely if I'm the first guy who calls and wants to buy the pin at a "great" deal, that would tick me off if I miss out on said deal because someone educated the buyer but I'm also ready for it and would be understanding that its' the owner's prerogative to not lose his shirt. The only time I'd be REALLY pissed at the owner is if there is a downpayment made and then he/she would say "here's your downpayment back, I sold it to someone else." That crosses the "a deal's a deal" territory. I don't see this any different then if someone is selling their pin for too much money and you pass on your opinion that they should bring their price down. Sure, there are some soreheads out there, but not every story has bad intend behind it.
Anyway, no, I never called anyone selling a pin and told them they shouldn't sell at that price and to raise their price, so no groundless attacks please . Just giving my opinion is all.
I know I will be roasted alive for saying this but I don't think it's always bad intent when someone tells a seller "you know, the machine you're selling is worth more".
Right, but do you tell him before or after he mentions it's been sold to someone else?
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I know I will be roasted alive for saying this but I don't think it's always bad intent when someone tells a seller "you know, the machine you're selling is worth more".
Totally agree with you, Rob. I also don't think it is unreasonable when someone realizes they are selling something dirt cheap and then raise it. It's their game, they can do what they want. As long as they haven't taken a deposit or worse yet full payment. In that case, it's a contract and binding.
Be honest folks, if you listed something for $1,500 and found out it's worth $2,500, wouldn't you increase the price? I would.
That said, I have never emailed someone telling them they should increase their price. And I have had prices increased on me many, many times. Comes with the hobby. You either ante up or walk away.
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machine.slave and HP5P have it right on. And I get where The Loafer is coming from too. There's very little integrity left in the world. I'm just glad to be able to say that I still have mine.
Everyone here has experienced it. You make a deal, are preparing to complete it, and someone else calls in and says "oh, it's worth more." That purchaser/bidder has no integrity and the seller who changes a deal in progress has no integrity. Sometimes that caller follows through and picks it up, sometimes they don't or they show up and start humming and hawwing (oh, I thought it was wirth more, but it's got this and that and this that needs to be done.), trying to get the price back down. Sometimes the "higher" bidder shows up and realizes the seller didn't adequately describe the goods and backs down. I have gotten call backs because of that in similar situations.
Do I ever accept an offer and then reneg on a deal in progress because I get a better offer? No. Do I make mistakes and then try to stick other people with it? No. And 99% of the time I will go through with a deal "sight unseen" even if the goods are not in the condition the seller has described. But that's just me.