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Malibu SS
December 7, 2007, 11:22pm Report to Moderator

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Looking for some opinions here:

If you had a Got syst1 and were looking for a replacement board---- PI-1 or Ni-wumpf

I really do not know alot about these boards...,this is why I ask

Which would you choose..and why?

Thanks


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Pascal's board without question. Solid reliability and some really nice features you can activate if you so choose.

A friend of mine has had one in his Joker Poker for over a year now. No bugs or glitches, and some of the options include an attract mode (inserts flash and chase), and a skill shot for the upper lanes. Of course, you can run it as original as well.

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Looking for some opinions here:

If you had a Got syst1 and were looking for a replacement board---- PI-1 or Ni-wumpf

I really do not know alot about these boards...,this is why I ask

Which would you choose..and why?

Thanks


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I have zero experience with Pascal's board, but I had no problems with a ni-wumpf recently.
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If you're keeping the machine and don't mind waiting, get a Pi-1. If you're flipping the machine, get the Ni-wumph. The Pi-1 has more neat features than the Ni-wumph. If you're looking for the Cadillac of System 1 boards, get the Pi-4x, it combines the MPU, driver board and power supply all in one board.


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I have had good experience with the Ni-Wumpf replacement MPU board
(purchased and installed three or four of those in the last eight years).
I am also impressed with David Humphrey (Ace, Ni-Wumpf) customer support.

I sold a Close Encounters Sys1 Gottlieb pinball machine with a replacement MPU
(Ni-Wumpf) board to someone local, over seven years ago (wow, time flies!).

That person recently contacted (last month), indicating that the machine would
no longer coin-up nor start a game.  I went over his place and quickly found that
although the machine would properly boot-up, it would not react to any switch,
not even the diagnostic switch. Connectors were all fine, no short or disconnected
wires in the cashdoor harness/switches. +5V fine. All pointed to an MPU issue.

Went back home and emailed David Humphrey (Ace, Ni-Wumpf) details about the
symptoms of the board, and for advice, since the MPU schematic is not published.
I was not sure if we had to send it back for repair or get a replacement chip from them.

On the next day, David replied back with a note that he was pretty sure that the issue
was with the U1 switch strobe TTL chip on the board (a 74156), and that I should try
socket and replace it first (I always socket chips anyhow, good advice). He also offered
to send one for $1 plus shipping if I did not have such part locally.

I did not have that exact part but had a lower power 74LS156. I emailed David back
indicating that I would now search locally for an exact 74156, as the LS part is lower-power
and drive capability. David replied back on the next day indicating I should try the LS part
anyway as the switch matrix inputs do not require much current to detect.

Thus, I removed the old chip, installed a socket and the new 74LS156 part, and that fixed it !
Of course I sent another email to David to share the result and to sincerely thank him !
My customer was also very happy as his machine was back in action.

I am really impressed with Ni-Wumpf:
- the board lasted seven years without a glitch
- great customer support even after all that time
- exact pinpointing of the issue via email, did not need to send the board back.


Now, I understand that Pascal Janin's board is a marvel, but the waiting list and distance
turned me off... but this is just me...


Good luck !

Cheers,
- Sylvain.


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I have no experience, but am likely going the X4 route - as it replaces almost everythiing that could wrong in the Sys 1.  My dilema is its price - as its almost the "price guide" value of a Sinbad @ $300+ - and a Sinbad's only "worth" $450..., and then to hear everyone trash Sinbad's gameplay, makes me wonder if its worth it.
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