Quoted from jonny_eh

That's weird, I don't recall spending an extra $1500 on my $1200 mac.

Ahh, you bought an iMac.. I was talking about Mac Pro's.  So you spent an extra $600 then..  

Here's an example of what I meant.  The superdrive in my boss' (13 month old) Mac Book died, so he went to the Apple Store to see what they could do for him.  They tried to convince him to buy a $269 external burner.  Thankfully, he had the smarts to go across the street to Futureshop and buy one for $79  

I know you have investments in Apple, Jon, and I can appreciate that your need to defend that investment (it was obviously a wise one), but you need to see both sides of the coin here..

BTW, good luck adding RAM or hard drive space to that fancy lookin' iMac  

**edit**

I hate to use Dell as an example but since you cited them earlier, here's a comparable PC to the lowest model iMac, but with a larger screen and 50% more hard drive space:

http://configure.dell.com/dell.....odel_id=inspiron-580

The numbers really speak for themselves here..

**edit edit**

Sorry, it's missing the video card.. here's the exact same model, but with 4 times the RAM for $65

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5256326&CatId=3669

Tough card to find, for a "top of the line" Mac it's using a 2 year old video card.  

I downloaded AVG. Works good.

31 trojans and 7 viruses found.

Damn porn

Sparky that's because you always click yes to download files that end in .exe be cuz you think that's an abbreviation for "excellent" lol

Quoted from machine.slave

Most importantly, if you buy a PC (or build one) with compatible specs, you can actually dual-boot it with either Windows or OS X.  So really, you can have the best of both worlds at 1/3 the cost.  Karmatose can chime in on that if he likes, he's got more experience with it.

Yep. Let me know if you want to know more.  I've been running OS X on generic x86 hardware since 10.4.4 when the developer preview came out. It's never been easier to get OS X running on generic hardware.

My specs:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
Intel Q9550 CPU
Nvidia 8800GTS 640mb
8GB of RAM
Several large HDDs.

This rig cost me far less than a Mac Pro and does everything I ask of it.

Quoted from wbradley

Well at least with Safari you can set it for private viewing and keep your cache clean.

Internet Explorer 8, Firefox and Safari for PC do the same.

Quoted from machine.slave

BTW, good luck adding RAM or hard drive space to that fancy lookin' iMac  

I've done both, very easy. For hard drives, external USB drives are cheap and easy to add. For RAM, all Macs are designed to at least have their RAM easily upgrades. There's just a little flap that's removed to install the RAM.

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I know you have investments in Apple, Jon, and I can appreciate that your need to defend that investment (it was obviously a wise one), but you need to see both sides of the coin here..

Go ahead and continue to call into question my character or motives, it is possible to have a civil discussion about these things ya know. I own stocks in all sorts of tech companies. I've owned my mac for many years before I bought any Apple stock.

I am fully ready to admit the flaws and advantages of every given platform. Macs do cost more money, but you get more. I think it's worth it, but others don't. And this decision will largely depend on a person's needs and means. It's no big deal. Why do these discussions always devolve into passionate arguments?

Mac all the way, unless you are a gamer I have a macbook and we also have a Macbook Pro, I wouldn't ever go back to a PC.

Just go play pinball will ya. ... or go build a cpu with coils, bumpers and relays.  

Quoted from jonny_eh

Why do these discussions always devolve into passionate arguments?

I prefer the term "debate".  No one's throwing stones here, man!  I still think you're good peeps regardless of your skewed opinion on Apple products  

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

Quoted from jonny_eh

Why do these discussions always devolve into passionate arguments?

They turn into arguments because of misinformation and the RDF. If you're uncertain what the RDF is, Google is your friend.

I won't use Apple hardware after the last iBook and PowerMac I owned, but I love the OS. I do think Apple hardware is overpriced, underspec'ed and terribly unreliable. However, I'm a bit of a Unix nerd, and I use Photoshop for a living, so OS X is a good fit for me. So, what's a nerd who dislikes Apple hardware, likes OS X and still needs Visual Studio do? Hackintosh.

Quoted from jonny_eh

Go ahead and continue to call into question my character or motives...

Face it. Jon's right...Apple is a better product. Expensive, but better designed, intuitive to use, and damn sexy!


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TRAITOR!!

Quoted from Hippochrome

Face it. Jon's right...Apple is a better product. Expensive, but better designed, intuitive to use, and damn sexy!


Sent on my iPhone.....lol