Quoted from Mrhide

Anyone else here who would pay 2k for a getaway?!  speak up now!

Perhaps I'm crazy (as proved by my recent GNR purchase) but I paid $1900 for my Getaway about 1.5 years ago.... and I don't regret it.  It's one of the most fun games ever made (in my opinion).

Hope you find one Adam.  They typically come up in spurts... a few at a time for some reason.  We just had a spurt this past summer with 3-4 available.

Awesome game!

[quote=849]I hate to ruin a good argument with math, but it appears that if you divide $ 4000 by the avg price of a GnR and divide $2K by the avg price for a HSII, you pretty much get the same ratio.

Actually it was $4200 (plus I pimped it out too so there's some extra $$ that I'll never see again.)

Quoted from mrniceguy

I hate to ruin a good argument with math, but it appears that if you divide $ 4000 by the avg price of a GnR and divide $2K by the avg price for a HSII, you pretty much get the same ratio.

You can argue about the most tasteful way to over-spend, but the % of over-spending appears to be the same for both pins, or at least too close to argue about.


We now return to our regular programming.

Then you must be doing some funny math.

The average price according to the same quote website on a GnR is $2600.  The original crazy offer price from TGlover was $4500, that is 43% more then the average price of a GNR.

The average price of a Getaway is 1395 and I'm offering $2000 that is only that is only 30% more then the average price.  

That's a difference mathematically of 13% so I fail to see how my offer is anything like the Tglover offer.  

Also that just the offer price, what I'm willing to pay for the right machine.   If the machine is mint, in full working order and doesn't need a shop job, I'll pay 2K.  But the second you add in things like flipper rebuilds, shop jobs, wear, cabinet fade and the price starts to drop.  

The other thing I always find funny about these "Well I only paid $750"  Yea how long ago was that, maybe 5 years ago or more???  ?Yea exactly, find me a Getaway today for $750 that isn't beaten to sh!t.

Quoted from Vengeance

Then you must be doing some funny math.

The average price according to the same quote website on a GnR is $2600.  The original crazy offer price from TGlover was $4500, that is 43% more then the average price of a GNR.

The average price of a Getaway is 1395 and I'm offering $2000 that is only that is only 30% more then the average price.  

That's a difference mathematically of 13% so I fail to see how my offer is anything like the Tglover offer.  

Well, here's the real math :

For the HSII     $2000 - 1395 = approx. 600 above average.   600 / 1395 = 43 %.  You gotta divide the 600 by the 1395, not the 2000.

For the GnR :   4000 ( Mrhide's stated price ) - 2600 = 1400.   1400 / 2600 = 54 %.  So it's a difference of 11%.

Of course, if you use TGlover's $4600 , the math changes.  However, if anyone thinks the average price of a GnR is $2600, they are stoned.

I still don't think anyone can comfortably say that 43% above market is reasonable but 54% is insane.  I mean, come on.


Anyway, please never question my math skills again.  I'll let it go this time.  

Quoted from Vengeance

The average price of a Getaway is 1395.

Put me down for six of those really nice $1395 Getaways please.

I've been doing this WPC thing for awhile. These prices are comical. I mean other than total turd bucket where has the $1395 HSII been in my life?

Quoted from mrniceguy

Anyway, please never question my math skills again.  I'll let it go this time.

Good to know the next time someone is looking for the prime number.

"Turd bucket" makes me laugh.

I've got a lot of prime numbers.  Just give me a shout whenever you need one.

I must be a real sucker because I paid more than average book value for most all my machines, and put lots of hours and parts in them afterward.

Now, on the other hand once I have everything done they are well worth it to me.

The other night for TOPL I admit I was I was ill prepared having so recently acquired several new machines that needed work and have fixed up and installed lots of parts in several of my machines this week. I do not stop until I am satisfied they are up to snuff.

I believe most of my games when all done are worth more than average price.  However I am not in it for profit, which completely puzzles some people I know.

Anyway I don't know why but it seems I have seen Mr. Hide comment that such and such machine is worth whatever (usually less than the seller wants) one more than one occasion. I for one would just pack up a machine and put it into storage if I felt that despite my input some outside influence had reduced the value to a losing proposition for me. And I am just talking what I spent, not the man hours which I don't give a dollar value.

I have sunk over $1100.00 into Barracora, for example, with a book value of about $700.00 The game plays great from originally being a basket case, I have a spare set of working  MPU/Driver boards now and I could never sell it for cash as nobody would appreciate what I have put into it.

[I have sunk over $1100.00 into Barracora, for example, with a book value of about $700.00 The game plays great from originally being a basket case, I have a spare set of working  MPU/Driver boards now and I could never sell it for cash as nobody would appreciate what I have put into it. [/quote]

I would appreciate it for $700.  In fact I could even be talked into making you a certificate!!!  No seriously, I hear you!

Example myself T2 fair shape, paid $1,400.00
New skull, ship, plastics, protective plastics, flipper rebuild, new coils, leds, I could go on & on.
$800.00 easy in parts & still spending.
I’m sure my T2 don’t have a book value of $2,500
I guess my value is making the pin top notch myself & doing anything I can.
That’s the hobby that kicks in + it’s a lot of fun replacing parts something I enjoy…

Everyone goes on and on about how they don't want to lose money on games.  I don't get it.  You have to pay to play.  If I am reselling another collectible, like a classic car, do I have to add up how much all the tires I have used, the oil changes, the car washes, the fan belts, the transmission fluid, the brake fluid, the waxes, the insurance etc......

This is a hobby where you have to pay extra in order to keep these things running in great condition.  If I own a game for 3 years and sell it for the same, or even a bit less, I look at it as the money it cost me to keep it running.  I don't try to justify it to myself that I need to make a profit, after I have enjoyed a game for many years, like some others need to.

im with monkeybug on this one....

as long (if your lucky) to get your money out of it...good for you....enjoy the time used on the machine, accept the wear and tear to keep it the same and most important you still have ALL those quarters!

my opinion only

Just to add one more thing... I don't even want to add up my entire costs for my IJ restoration, which included TWO complete teardowns and TWO clearcoat jobs.  The first one was messed up by one of the more famous RGP'ers in the states who does it.  This is why I am sticking with Poolman from now on.

But, when my 4 year old decided one day to dress up as Indiana Jones and run around the house, this picture just made it all seem all worthwhile.  Well almost...