Quoted from TGlover

You are a very respectable guy for not wanting to let me down and still picking my game up!!!!  All should know this!

That IS Mr. Niceguy!  But that Avatar freaks me out a bit too, it wasn't until I met him that I realized he has all his teeth!  In front, anyway.

Quoted from jonny_eh

Sure, things can happen or change, but there's right ways about going about it.

That being very true, it irks me, knowing Mr. Niceguy's integrity, that the seller just let it happen and roll off his back with what seems like little forethought into the consequences (the other side of this coin).  I have had to back out of deals before, but in all cases there was a good reason, I felt bad, really bad, and I tried to make things right, often offering up some cash as compensation.  

An apology and an honest reason would go a long way to a first step at reconcilliation.

It's definitely the avatar.  That's the only reason I haven't picked up your Flash yet.

Nah.. you got screwed.  

I call BS all the way, I don't know why more people aren't outraged that a long time member of this forum is acting this way.

Yes cash is King but the fact of the matter is Glenn offered to put a deposit, he put his money where his mouth was and the SELLER, not the buyer declined.  Powerslave told Glenn he didn't need the deposit that the game was sold and it was his.  The fact that he went back on his word and then sold the game out from under Glenn for whatever reason is BS, and shows the true character of this person.  I know Glenn personally, can't say I've ever met Powerslave, and knowing Glenn I know he is a stand up guy.  The second Powerslave turned down the deposit the onus was not on Glenn to man up with the cash, it was on Powerslave to keep up his end of the deal.

Yes these things happen all the time, on craigslist, Kijiji, mrpinball and ebay.  I personally expect more from this community and it's members and I haven't been let down yet.  This shouldn't be acceptable or fluffed off as just another deal gone bad, Powerslave isn't some newb on the site he is a long standing member here and should know better.

Quoted from McMean

Nah.. you got screwed.  

Well said.

I can understand if mrniceguy was wavering, saying he was going to 'drop by and take a look' but, no, he offered to pay immediately.

Quoted from mrniceguy

ME
Okay, Saturday it is.   I will be going to ______ first to unload 2 machines, then I will go to your house.   Did you want a money transfer or do you want cash on Saturday ?

VENDOR (Powerslave)
That's ok for me if you pay in cash Saturday  and confirm on my post that you gone buy my game. That's only proof for me to keep the game for you.  Thks.

It's unfortunate. This would have made a nice surprise addition to the ToPL meeting that Glenn is hosting this Monday. Oh well, there'll certainly be plenty to talk about.

Odd that we haven't heard from the seller yet?  As they say, no response admits guilt...  

I suggest to correct the (what I'll call - to be nice "Miss-Communication") and keep his good name, that the seller should man up and appologize, as well as cover the hotel bill.  

I'm throwing a 'little extra' in on my deal - just because of the intergty Glenn has shown.

Seller, any response?

Like every body know,my english is not very good
Comme j'avais dit a plusieurs reprises aux pm que j'ai reçu:premier arrivé,premier servi
Par 3 fois j'avais dit a mrniceguy d'ecrire sur mon post qu'il achetait la game,ce qui me donnait une garantie d'achat,il ne voulait pas disant qu'il voulait rester anonyme (pourquoi? ? ?) si t'aurais marqué ton nom sur mon post j'aurais été obligé de te la vendre bin beau mais ça me donnait pas une garantie d'achat,donc la game était toujours disponible,j'ai marqué vendu parceque y'avait sufisamment de monde qui la voulait pour la ramasser dans la semaine(6 ou 7 personnes local pour la ramasser en semaine) alors que ce samedi avec les heures que mrniceguy m'avait dit je n'etais pas sure de pouvoir etre la surtout avec le délais des heures qu'il m'avait donné n'était pas claire
Comme plusieurs membres sur maaca ça m'est arrivé souvent de perdre une vente ou un achat et j'en ai jamais fait un débat public sur le forum
Ton histoire de motel je la comprend pas tu m'avais dit que tu passait chez Gino pis que tu passais apres soit une distance de 20 minutes de route,si tu t'es louer un motel pour ça t'as pas vérifier avec mapquest c'est vraiment pas loin
Pis ton trailer ça fait 2 semaines que tu essaie de le rentabilisé en offrant la navette de game entre Toronto/Mtl
Selon moi j'ai pas fourrer personne premier arrivé premier servi
Pourquoi tu penses que je l'ai gardé seulement 3 semaine...
Fin de discution pour ma part
Mario

I think the problem here is that Mario and Glenn don't actually know each other, misread each other's cues and there is a cultural difference in deal-making to be considered. My take is that Glenn thinks Mario was dishonourable, and Mario thinks Glenn was lazy for not protecting his deal.  (If you don't understand how the French make deals, and how it differs from Anglo-Canada, then don't bother commenting.)

Both have valid points to consider, but in considering the "MAACA method" - I think that Mario has made more of a mistake choosing this path to defend than Glenn has made by making the assumption of a done deal.  I personally have dealt with and trust both, but I think that Mario should try to make amends somehow.

They need to hash this out in private, but its a good lesson for us all to put all your ducks in a row and having machine in hand before considering a deal "done".

Mes deux cents.

Quoted from powerslave

Like every body know,my english is not very good
Comme j'avais dit a plusieurs reprises aux pm que j'ai reçu:premier arrivé,premier servi
Par 3 fois j'avais dit a mrniceguy d'ecrire sur mon post qu'il achetait la game,ce qui me donnait une garantie d'achat,il ne voulait pas disant qu'il voulait rester anonyme (pourquoi? ? ?) si t'aurais marqué ton nom sur mon post j'aurais été obligé de te la vendre bin beau mais ça me donnait pas une garantie d'achat,donc la game était toujours disponible,j'ai marqué vendu parceque y'avait sufisamment de monde qui la voulait pour la ramasser dans la semaine(6 ou 7 personnes local pour la ramasser en semaine) alors que ce samedi avec les heures que mrniceguy m'avait dit je n'etais pas sure de pouvoir etre la surtout avec le délais des heures qu'il m'avait donné n'était pas claire
Comme plusieurs membres sur maaca ça m'est arrivé souvent de perdre une vente ou un achat et j'en ai jamais fait un débat public sur le forum
Ton histoire de motel je la comprend pas tu m'avais dit que tu passait chez Gino pis que tu passais apres soit une distance de 20 minutes de route,si tu t'es louer un motel pour ça t'as pas vérifier avec mapquest c'est vraiment pas loin
Pis ton trailer ça fait 2 semaines que tu essaie de le rentabilisé en offrant la navette de game entre Toronto/Mtl
Selon moi j'ai pas fourrer personne premier arrivé premier servi
Pourquoi tu penses que je l'ai gardé seulement 3 semaine...
Fin de discution pour ma part
Mario

Translation please (a REAL translation...not a babblefish translation)

Google translation is better for French than BabelFish IMHO.

Hate to stick my nose in but Mario probably got an offer for more money and did the uncool thing and backed out of the deal.

That machine wouldn't have been difficult to sell since the previous owner was Bruno (mindstorm8 and so the electronics for sure would have been excellent.  Also, he had added the Deadzone mod making it even more attractive.

I suppose there is also a slight chance it was a language issue, just to give the benefit of the doubt.

NOT COOL!    (nuff said)

Quoted from wbradley

Hate to stick my nose in but Mario probably got an offer for more money and did the uncool thing and backed out of the deal.

  

I really hate to stick MY nose in but that is a totally FALSE statement!!!

The machine was sold for the same price said to the first person with the money in hand. thats it and thats all. please dont make false assumptions

Why you ask??....  "I think" because  he got SHAFTED by a fellow member here who promissed to buy a machine and came out at the last minuite with some BS trade offer causing the loss of a sale and loss of money needed for another pinball.Ever since then its always been first with the cash gets it....no deposit,no lay away plan ,cash  and carry ,no BS. This my be a sad story but nobody likes loosing a sale(and worse ... money)
I have baught three pinballs off Mario and it was always "first with the cash" so I would pick them up within the same hour,Mario has always been very fair and never had a bitter deal with him.

Not taking sides on this one ,none of my bussniss. Just pointing out a few facts and yes that was one lame game why else do you think he wanted it out the door after three weeks ASAP??