I just look at revenge from mars on youtube and wow it looks and seams to be a real good game, star war episode 1 looks good too.
We do not see a lot of those pinball 2000.
Are they reliable ?
Most importantly are they affordable ?

Quoted from korgull

I just look at revenge from mars on youtube and wow it looks and seams to be a real good game, star war episode 1 looks good too.
We do not see a lot of those pinball 2000.
Are they reliable ?
Most importantly are they affordable ?

Wow... have you not been following this board... ?

Pin2K gets discussed regularly.

Here are the "highlights"  :


- Pin2K : Loved by many, hated by others ( State-of-Art  Vs.  video atrocity )
- RFM is more liked than SW EP.1  
- RFM is "easier" than SW EP.1, but alot funnier with great video and sound bites
- SW Ep.1 is actually a "deeper" game,  but never got any love
- Would get repetitive if it's your only game.  But VERY popular in a collection
- Absolutely BRILLIANT maintenance design.  Easiest pin to troubleshoot and fix
- Expensive to replace CPU and components.  NUCORE is a great alternative but still about $800

Going rate is $2400-2800CDN for a clean game with good cosmetics.
Can be had cheaper ($2000) if routed.

Quite popular on MAACA, with several people wanting to buy one.

I estimate there are probably well over 10 members here which own one.
(... I have an nice RFM with NIB  SW Ep.1 conversion PF kit )

Personally, I think it's an awesome game, under-priced in my opinion,
and a definite keeper in my collection...

Cheers,
Steph

Watch the movie. I never trust the reviews.

http://tilt-movie.com/

I have a SWE1 which I just finished shopping this week. It works 100% and I can say that most I have tried do not so I never had the full impression of it. It is really fun and of my 8 working games it is by far the most popular with my 11 year old and my wife.

Again, not a good choice if you only have 1 or 2 games, but it has a lot to offer once you start to get a bit better at it and get to conquer all 13 video modes. A lesser player will never even see some of the modes.

It was the last game made by WMS so I think for that reason a really mint one will have lasting value. In my opinion WMS made the best games overall. This is the height of their technology in pinball. Hasn't appreciated like MM or ToTAN or any of the last WMS games but eventually it probably will.

I love my RFM.  It was easy to restore, since almost all the parts are still available.  I capped my monitor and added the UFO MOD kit.

Overall I really enjoy playing it, however as everyone says, it can get boring if it's your only pin (as with any pin I figure).  

PRO's:

-Very Fun
-Comical
-Affiliated with AFM
-Lots or parts
-NEW CPU now available (if you ever need one)  This was the main complaint about buying one of these in the past.. if the CPU went it was hard to find a new one, and if you could, it was WAY expensive!  That is no longer the case.
-MOD's available
-Great sound system
-shorter body design so it fits in tighter spaces (which is great when trying to fit in that last pin)
-Very original and offers variety to any collection (not just another pin!)
-You can get them from the States for a reasonable price (currently)
-can convert game to SWE1 (if you really wanted to - but I don't know why anyone would)
-Kids absolutely LOVE this game
-Has it's own movie about the history and making of the game.
-Can get autographed plastics from George Gomez!!!!  cool addition to any game.

Cons
-VERY HEAVY (but it comes apart int 3 pieces so it's not that bad)
-shorter playfield
-power switch is way at the back side (a pain in the a**!)
-hard to find new glass (this is special tinted glass)
-I don't like the way the lock-down bar works (personal peeve)
-has gone up in price ever since necore came out
-Is getting harder to find one in decent shape (In my opinion)
-game can be repetitive, but allows you to pick from any of the 6 modes to start from (which lends to some variety)
-Difficult to be Really Good at it. (I have yet to beat Mars)

Thats my $0.02

Hope you pick one up.

The game is unique, fun, very visual and perhaps will some day be viewed as more significant to the history of Williams and pinball in general than even Cactus Canyon.

I would love an rfm, maybe I could even put one of my big title in a potential trade for one.
Thanks

I will have a nice SWep1 available for sale in a few weeks...

Doug

I would trade you mine for a TZ or MM since your offering.  (I figure as a collector I am forced to get a TZ eventually)

Quoted from TGlover

I would trade you mine for a TZ or MM since your offering.  (I figure as a collector I am forced to get a TZ eventually)

Oh here we go again...

hell, I'd also like to trade $2400 for $3500-$7000, where do I sign up?  

Quoted from TGlover

I would trade you mine for a TZ or MM since your offering.  (I figure as a collector I am forced to get a TZ eventually)

Quoted from Vengeance

The lion was funnier

the big title I have are guns roses and star trek next gen, but this is just a thaught I am not shure about letting go those games.

GNR is much better than RFM in my opinion. I should know too, I own both!

And GnR is worth 2 RFM's!!  

Quoted from korgull

the big title I have are guns roses and star trek next gen, but this is just a thaught I am not shure about letting go those games.

I wouldn't let those titles go for a RFM. Both are much better than RFM. The game is fun, but it is rather limited in terms of gameplay.

Duane

I'd take them both!

I was thinking, new games are tempting, but I can not afford to buy without selling right now, its been 3 years that I have my trek and my guns, but they are still fun. I am thinking bout putting led kitts in them and talking about led is worth to put them in the backbox ? In the insert and flasher on the playfild wow, but the g. i of the pf and the backbox I wonder.

LED GI is a personal preference.  I installed them on my CV in the GI and backbox, and while I think the backbox is ok, I'm not a fan of LED's for GI.  I find they flicker way too much (these are the BCS no-flicker versions too), to the point I lose the ball quite ofter due to the quick strobe effect.

For my TOTAN I installed them in the inserts and am quite happy with it.

D

Quoted from TwilightZone

I wouldn't let those titles go for a RFM. Both are much better than RFM. The game is fun, but it is rather limited in terms of gameplay.

Duane

I'm the opposite, I'd punt STTNG in three seconds flat for an RFM. STTNG is a good game but easily obtained. RFM not so easy anymore unless you go south. They made a lot of RFM's but like TAF people seem to be holding onto them.

regarding the title of this post "'revenge from mars".
i did a little hunting and found one at a dirtly little mall in Brampton. We actually call this mall 'MODB"
Mall. of. Broken. Dreams. lol

This game is turned off with an "out of order" sign and the lady working in there is very suspicious, angry, unhelpfull and plain out rude.

Anyhow after calling the owners of the mall, i found out that it is owned by Starburst.

Quoted from aerostarz

regarding the title of this post "'revenge from mars".
i did a little hunting and found one at a dirtly little mall in Brampton. "

Which mall is it?  There's quite a few "ghetto malls" (as my wife and I call 'em) in Brampton  

we call it MOBD, but its at the corner of Clarence and Kennedy.

One of my staff says it used to be called Clarence mall and another says its now called first canadian place.

its in a place called Kiddy land.

Good luck trying to get the lady to open the gate to let you in,

Guys, my RFM for TZ or MM trade was obviously a joke..... or was it?

I actually traded my near mint AF for my RFM plus cash.  That's how bad I wanted one.  Plus I found AF to be a little easy (i.e. not that challenging - albeit fun).

I just got mine and put a NUCORE system into it.  It is by far the most played by the kids.  I think they are undervalued and will be highly collectable. With NUCORE most of the red flags are gone and these machine can be maintained cheaply.  Put a 23" LCD and the display looks fantastic.  I would recommend the machine and it does add a different flavour to pinball.


Lance