and another thing... it is guys like that that cause good members to leave... notice DiamondDave's comment. I swore that I would not censor... but if it now takes a more stern stance, so be it. I have gotten A LOT of positive PMs on my sudden stance.
Will it hurt membership? Yes... but then again doing nothing will hurt it too, as well as affect the good content of the site.
People visit this site a lot... they enjoy it... I want to keep it that way.
This is the 21st century and we are on the internet here.
This is why he is being an a**. If he did that in our face he may get a beating. Big Macho man hiding behind his keyboard.
People need to be put in there place or it only gets worse. Look at the world around you and tell me things are not getting out of hand because there are no REAL consequences.
Hey Sinpin... Karmatose deleted his own post. I didn't. That is not censorship... and as for calling him out, read the first post.
To sum it up, and this is my opinion, not a rule:
To all that post offensive crap, grow up or go away. You are spoiling it for everyone else.
Thanks for clearing that up - i missed it somehow reading the post. I agree that the situation was dealt with correctly and fairly. Great job! I just hope that members will continue to at least push the envelope a little when it comes to humor and "good-hearted" ribbing. I, myself, enjoy that stuff. Keeps things interesting and unpredictable.
Very happy that there will be no attempt to "censor" anyone's posts. If there is something badly questionable and it is brought to that person's attention causing them to delete their own post - PERFECT. Still I wish I could have seen the item in question (but that is just me and not necessarily anyone else). I do understand.
I never saw the post but judging by the description i know theres one hidden in the house here somewhere. I don't look for it though, but when it does show up I just chuckle. I just don't touch it. Point being, we are all adults. We can take it.
What really P.O's me, the 5 second delay during the superbowl helf-time show. End result, i just don't watch it anymore.
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Hey the post sat for about 6 hours without reply. My bulb was a bump to see if Jeffo could get some real action before his post got buried so deep it would be lost in cyberspace. It was a joke and not made at Jeffo or anyone in particular but just was an indication of how difficult recently it is to drum up some decent project material.
If you find the bulb offensive or just plain "dull" I would be more than happy to remove it.
Look I try to keep things moving along in many cases. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's not so good. What can I say, at least I read the posts and respond to try to keep things rolling, hence I have 3 million some odd posts . Some posts replies are good and some not so good (i.e. bulb) but the fact of the matter I am keenly interested in pinball and I guess my enthusiasm is reflected in my involvement here. Yes it was useless fluff, but by the same token I put up a lot of technical in depth discussions on what I am working on, query issues publicly for the greater knowledge of the group in the interest to further stimulate open dialogue, and provide assistance where I can on other topics.
*Note* Long winded reply follows. To go straight to my point go to paragraph 4.
Wow this thread really blossomed in the few hours I was at work tonight. I normally wouldn't comment on a thread such as this because I generally don't have the time or the patience to get worked up over something somebody said or did in a public forum on the internet. I'm just far too laid back for that. What I am seeing here though is one person being persecuted for the same kind of crap that quite a few other people on this forum also do. Some members of this forum have built up sizable post counts with meaningless, mindless, drivel and fluff.
The degradation of a large majority of the posts here and at the other popular Canadian video game forum due to these kinds of postings is the primary reason why I don't contribute anymore and also why I have had to find other avenues to buy and sell machines. There's just too much off-topic yammering going on in a lot of posts. This is just my perspective, but it's rare that I've seen a thread stay on topic for more than a 1/2 dozen responses, and I usually stop checking a thread after the first or second off-topic posting, I just don't have the patience to sift through the garbage.
I do not condone what karmatose posted, yes, it was tasteless and off-colour, but he had the wherewithal to realize he had gone a little over the limit with his response and deleted it without having to be told. He deserves credit for that. His response to everyone coming down on him like a ton of bricks for doing what quite a few other members also do, was not surprising and probably would have been the same response that would have come from most of us, myself included.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that we as a community have allowed this to happen by not policing ourselves, and letting people get away with straying way, way off topic, personal attacks and petty bickering in an open, public forum. This is not a responsibility that has to fall to Sparky or any one other individual to police, this is something that we ALL are responsible for. It's up to us as a group and a community to behave like adults. If you don't like someone, don't talk to them, if you have a dispute with someone, take it up with them in private, if you can't resolve it, ask a 3rd party to mediate. If you can't resolve it, fine, suck it up, you're an adult, deal with it. It's time for us to stop acting like a bunch of 2-year-olds in a playground sandbox and act like the adults we are supposed to be. I for one am getting really sick and tired of all the pissing and moaning and whining. I have to sort through enough of that crap reading RGP.
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