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I was looking around and saw that a Canadian distributor had really cheap eprom burners available. $30 bucks

http://cgi.ebay.com/AC-DC-USB-.....ZphotoQQcmdZViewItem



It's parallel and not USB but for $30 and being shipped from Canada for $15, it looked like a good unit for personal use.

I know that many of the guys are using the Xtronics PP2 USB, but $249 for hobby use seems prohibitive for most just to have one to play with.

Can anyone comment?



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I bought the TOP2004 from this seller a few years ago and I'm very happy with the programmer.  I don't know anything about this Willem programmer though...  Seems like a good deal..

The programmer is only half the problem..  Getting an inexpensive eraser is sometimes difficult..

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Quoted from MrMikeman
I bought the TOP2004 from this seller a few years ago and I'm very happy with the programmer.  I don't know anything about this Willem programmer though...  Seems like a good deal..

The programmer is only half the problem..  Getting an inexpensive eraser is sometimes difficult..

Mike



Well I have (had) one. I loaned it to Menace.....

Hey Doug, you using that eraser lately?



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I have a Willem from that vendor and I have never had a problem with it. If you're getting it for hobby use (obviously)  make sure you get the dual-power version. The USB power only version will not have the juice to program the the older chips that require 21 and 25 volts to program. And if you're planning on doing 16-bit chips (1meg or larger), get the adapter at the same time and save yourself some shipping.

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Quoted from Grauwulf
I have a Willem from that vendor and I have never had a problem with it. If you're getting it for hobby use (obviously)  make sure you get the dual-power version. The USB power only version will not have the juice to program the the older chips that require 21 and 25 volts to program. And if you're planning on doing 16-bit chips (1meg or larger), get the adapter at the same time and save yourself some shipping.

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Good point. I overlooked the fact the power supply wasn't in the box, and yes you need the various voltages. Is yours this particular parallel model?



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I've never used a Willem,
but I have heard of problems if using only USB power.
Definately get the AC adapter if available for that model.

I'll also heard that "some" eprom types are not supported
(...although I don't know if that's true )

One of the important eprom types you'll want are 2532 eproms.

I wrote a small summary on RGVAC awhile back.

http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.games.video.arcade.collecting/msg/3192413964f3aac9

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As for UV erasers, sometimes you get lucky on eBay

http://www.spectroline.com/PC-1100A.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260147258082

[ Granted, this is probably WAY bigger than most people need,
but some good deals do come around once in awhile... ]

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One of the important eprom types you'll want are 2532 eproms.


Hmmm. Not on the list of the $30 one. It appears on the USB units list though. $90 for that unit.

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/mcumall_TrueUSBWillemsupportICs.asp

http://cgi.ebay.com/Newest-Gen.....ZphotoQQcmdZViewItem



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I do have one , it is the dual power one (usb and ACadapter) , i have use it twice only !!!, i have it as a spare unit in case of all my other programmers would fail at the same time  !!!

it is ok for new type eprom\flash eprom  but lack of current drive even for some 2732 !!!!, on some forum you can find mod to upgrade the current drive a bit !!!!

as usual you get what you pay for !!!!


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With the actual EPROM chips being $3-8 retail each, then having to buy the programmer, and then the eraser. Plus all the time I would waste trying to program them....

I'll just order them from Steph. Fast service and great prices.  

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I'll just order them from Steph. Fast service and great prices.  

Dan



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Dan,
...  your freebies are on the way !    


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Quoted from Bally Boy
With the actual EPROM chips being $3-8 retail each, then having to buy the programmer, and then the eraser. Plus all the time I would waste trying to program them....

I'll just order them from Steph. Fast service and great prices.  

Dan


Yeah I'd recommend that too!!  I only bought a burner 'cause I was modyfing the sounds on my WWF and there was a lot of trial and error.

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With the actual EPROM chips being $3-8 retail each, then having to buy the programmer, and then the eraser. Plus all the time I would waste trying to program them....

I'll just order them from Steph. Fast service and great prices.  

Dan


Where is the fun in that though? It's a hobby, you got to try and do things that are going to be cost ineffective.



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