I shake my head..

Had folks over last night..  Non pin folks that really liked pins as kids..  1 of the guys had a Firepower at home for years but got rid of it years ago when it broke down..

So...  Both guys enjoyed the Stern Galaxy the most  

Yes my uncleaned, worn, not fully working Galaxy with the flaked, 4/10 Backglass that looks like mess..  I've got over 10K in 3 pins and they pick the 200$ one as their fave...  Wanted to cry...

The wives played all of the pins about equally I don't think they had a favourite.

The jukebox and peanut machine both got LOT's of attention!  The kids mostly played non-stop for 3 hours on the Road Riot and MAME.

BTW I'm beating MB on a regular basis now so it may be time to get rid of it...  


Mike

Non-pin folks? Hmmm... I hate to dissapoint, but I would have played just as much Galaxy as I would have MB. What it comes down to is reminiscing. Most of us here grew up playing early SS pins. So we naturally head for what we know better and used to play. Of course, MB is much better, but you can't beat sentimental favorites... I wouldn't even trade my Flash Gordon for a MB straight up, because I know I will get over MB quick... but FG just keeps me coming back and making me remember popping quarters in one as a kid.

Can't beat that...


Sparky

Quoted from Sparky

Most of us here grew up playing early SS pins. So we naturally head for what we know better and used to play. Sparky

Well that's what I thought with Meteor - spent TONS in that as a kid...  But when I had it I thought it sucked..  Maybe I should get a F2K   Maybe the multiball thing would make it more interesting..  Spent tons in that one too..

Mike

No doubt about it, people seemed to be more intimidated by the newer machines. I've had friends over that wouldn't even have ONE game on a STTNG I owned a while back. Too complicated-looking they said.  

So, your guests being non-pin folks, I'm not surprised they flocked to the Galaxy. BTW, great game!

Dave
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Quoted from maestro

So, your guests being non-pin folks, I'm not surprised they flocked to the Galaxy. BTW, great game!

Dave
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/dmp65

1 of the guys mentioned he was a big drop-target fan..  Too bad the Laser Ball wasn't ready!!  

Mike

Quoted from maestro

Too complicated-looking they said.  

That's just it! Newer pins are just too complicated. Non-pin people don't want to have to *think* when they play a game. They just want to be able to determine what needs to be done within 10 seconds of walking up to the machine. I enjoy playing new pins once I understand what needs to be done in order to be successful. Unfortunately, I have little interest in investing the time in takes to learn what needs to be done. I'd rather just press start, begin playing and learn as I go. And I find most non-pin people are the same. The more simplistic the game, the better. Add a bit of nostalgia factor and older games win hands down.

Corey

Quoted from MrMikeman

BTW I'm beating MB on a regular basis now so it may be time to get rid of it...  

I don't get around through my machines often enough to have any mastery on them. I think that may be some sort subconscious bragging statement, but it's true. So even HSII and the like stay. I keep the themes I like regardless of mastering them, because I don't.

Simple games and strategies are what non players understand. If there are three banks of drop targets then it makes sense to knock them all down. Pretty easy to grasp.

Players like rules and things that are fun to do.

Collectors like impossible rules, cool themes, great lighting, great art, awesome sounds, fair scoring etc. etc. etc.

When you look at what we as collectors and regular players judge a game by, it's pretty hard to understand what a non player is looking at when they approach a game. It's like me looking at a Picasso and saying "Who let the crazy guy have some paint?"

Quoted from cooke

That's just it! Newer pins are just too complicated.

...........And old pins quickly lose my interest. I personally do not care what "non-collectors like", it is MY collection and I do not collect pins for others. Lately the air hockey table gets more play than my pins and that is fine with me.

Quoted from HP5P

...........And old pins quickly lose my interest. I personally do not care what "non-collectors like", it is MY collection and I do not collect pins for others.

Very true. The only people that have any appreciation for what you have there tend to be other collectors, which is fine by me. Who wants to play a game against someone that doesn't even offer a challenge? I find those games more of a demo of what the game can do than an actual competition.

My experience is the exact opposite. True non-pin people -- folks that never really played pinball -- ALWAYS go for the newer, more interesting looking game -- at least at my house. In my experience, TOM and Cyclone were HUGE hits as they did something fun that newbies could hit again and again (even if not getting alot of points, they enjoyed it). In the case of cyclone, the ferris wheel was the gimmick. In the case of ToM, it was the magic trunk.

Interesting enough, though, most folks don't like Funhouse even though it has Rudy. Most complain it is "too hard" even when I explain the relatively simple rules.

Another favorite was BS: D. Everyone loved mist multiball which was relatively easy to get on the last ball.

Looking at Mike's original post, I'd hardly call his male friends non-pinheads. Both played pinball when they were young. So it's natural they would play the game they remember from their youth. Also, one said he liked "drop targets". A true non-pin person wouldn't have a clue what a drop target is.

I'm with Necro and Enzo, the old games are fun....at someone else's house. They get really boring when played over and over again. For my money, I'll stick with the newer, more interesting pins.

Duane

Quoted from MrMikeman

BTW I'm beating MB on a regular basis now so it may be time to get rid of it...  


Mike

yup... WAY too easy

Quoted from Mrhide

yup... WAY too easy

I don't get MoR very often to be honest. Guess I should sell everything else and focus on this one so I too can share in your feeling of disappointment.