Hi guys,

I need some information.  I've recently been rebuilding my Captain Fantastic; I stripped and refinished the cabinet complete.  I had no problem buying a stencil kit.  I am now doing an overlay for the playing field.  My first print is done and I took it in to a local print shop to get the second print done on a high gloss photo paper.  The owner had issues and did not want to do it because of a copyright infringement.  Do you guys know what the rules are, when it come to reproducing a playing field overlay?

I am basically doing the same thing that ed cheung did on the space shuttle.

Thanks

Sky

It would probably be easier to use another printer than to convince this guy that he is not going to be charged for a one off print job.

Or you could wait for the CPR reproduction pf that is due out this year (from what I remember).

Fair enough, but what's not to say that I'm not going to run into the same problem with another printer.  I'd like to know if what I am doing is legal?

I did try to get on the CPR list but their full already.

Thanks.

Sky

I believe you are open to replace anything you currently own i.e. if you have a playfield with art on it you can replace that art.

More or less a one for one deal. It's when you replicate additional copies my belief is that is an infringement issue.

Sorry, best I can do. I am not a lawyer (thankfully with the exception of the paycheck).

Quoted from Monkeybug

It would probably be easier to use another printer than to convince this guy that he is not going to be charged for a one off print job.

Or you could wait for the CPR reproduction pf that is due out this year (from what I remember).

Correct. since you own a CF, you are legally entitled to reproduce art for your own use only, thus one example. Any more with intent to sell, and THEN you would have infringement.

A copyright owner will not enforce their rights if you recreate the art and the printer merely prints it out. Besides, they won't go after the single guy that reproduces one example of art on a machine he owns.

Bah!  Copyright shmopyright... send it over, I'll print it for you, and cheaper.  

The printer sounds like a private.

Quoted from sky

I did try to get on the CPR list but their full already.

That was the pre-order list, right?  That doesn't mean they wont be available to people who are not on the list.  They just gauge the interest to see if its worthwhile.

Quoted from Monkeybug

Or you could wait for the CPR reproduction pf that is due out this year (from what I remember).

CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
PREORDER FULL & CLOSED      
PRINTING NOW

Yep. Sounds like it will be out quite soon.

Some pf's usually turn up at a premium right after they ship. Funny how that is...

Then again some end up like this. Competing against a re-run at $650 a pop that are dimpled.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fun-House-.....?hash=item53ddac72ed

I wonder if the existance of an authorized replacement of a copyrighted item available for a fair market price means that even creating one duplicate for yourself could be considered copyright infringement since it would no longer pass one of the tests for "fair dealing" in Canada (which is accessibility).

Quoted from machine.slave

Bah!  Copyright shmopyright... send it over, I'll print it for you, and cheaper.  

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tartagliag

I would not be afraid of making a copy of something I own.  If you are simply making one copy and will not end up selling your print by itself then it is no different in my mind than having the right to make a backup of an original music CD in case the original wear out or scratch etc..

Maybe I am wrong but that would mean that the company still has a right on your actual machine!  Someone must still has the right to the company a quick email may give you an answer.

take care

Here in Canada it's legal to download pirated mp3s. As long as you are not distributing copyrighted materials, you're probably fine.

Should have been a lawyer.  I stil can't grasp how Linux is blatant copy of Unix which is copyrighted yet is fully legal...; yet a 30 year piece of art on a playfield raises eyebrows at a local print shop...

Quoted from Tuborg

Should have been a lawyer.  I stil can't grasp how Linux is blatant copy of Unix which is copyrighted yet is fully legal...; yet a 30 year piece of art on a playfield raises eyebrows at a local print shop...

Linux was programmed from scratch, they didn't violate a single thing copyright wise. It just behaves a lot like unix (but not exactly). Just because it puts all the config files in /etc it does not mean it's violating copyright.

When a new CPU like AMD is out, it is legal for INTEL to reverse engineer it to see how it works.  They simply can't copy it etc.. This way it makes way for better products in the future by sharing knowledge.  Copyright is a funny beast and you can't blanket an answer to everything because it may not apply all around.

You will be 100% by asking a legit question to a lawyer if you are really concerned but it will $$$$$.

take care

Quoted from gmaranda

When a new CPU like AMD is out, it is legal for INTEL to reverse engineer it to see how it works.  They simply can't copy it etc.. This way it makes way for better products in the future by sharing knowledge.  Copyright is a funny beast and you can't blanket an answer to everything because it may not apply all around.

You will be 100% by asking a legit question to a lawyer if you are really concerned but it will $$$$$.

take care

Chip design is not covered by copyright, it's covered by patents. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Copyright covers 'creative' works. Here in Canada (and everywhere outside good old US of A), computer code does not fall into this category. It's hard to imagine a chip being considered a creative work, it's completely utilitarian.