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After hitting any of the four drop targets on my Eight Ball Deluxe, the points do not just register once, but continue to register until the ball is drained.  While I don't mind scoring millions of points for hitting one target, it's just "not right" .  It just started doing this.  Any advice on where to look first ?  Thanks.


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sticky switch?  try cleaning them with a piece of paper


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Or maybe just a burned coil (the one that lifts the targets back up). This happened to me once on my Joust and a bad coil was the problem. Try oiling them a little.




                                                                       
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Try oiling them a little.


Or not.  


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Yep, most probably a dirty or misadjusted switch behind at least one of the drop targets.
Clean with a business card. Do not use sand paper on these gold-plated contacts.

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Aljo, have you oiled up that Catacomb? I just want to know so I can be sure to avoid that machine if it ever goes up for sale.  
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Aljo, have you oiled up that Catacomb? I just want to know so I can be sure to avoid that machine if it ever goes up for sale.  


Not yet! But should be soon.

I'll be stripping the playfield and clearcoating it after a few touch ups, in the next few weeks.
So, I can take you off my list of guys who want it? Too bad, you had second place.




                                                                       
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So, I can take you off my list of guys who want it? Too bad, you had second place.



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Cooke must be crushed...............


Maybe.... but I don't think so.




                                                                       
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Cooke must be crushed...............


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Well...I cleaned the contacts.  That didn't cure the problem.  Upon investigating, I have discovered that when any of the first 3 targets are knocked down, the points continue to rack up.  However, as soon as the 4th ( last) target is knocked down, the points stop.  Anybody have another idea ?


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Bad or missing switch diode?
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This issue is definitely usually caused by a dirty or poorly adjusted contact
behind one of the drop targets. Or by a bad/leaky capacitor, when present.

By how many points is the score increasing when the trouble is occuring?
Once in that mode with only the first in-line drop target down, go into
diagnostic:switch test, and identify which switch is detected closed.
Hopefully there will be another number showing instead of only the expected
switch 01. These observations should help identifying which switch is detected
closed.

Finally, a leaky cap across a switch could do this problem. There is supposed
to be a capacitor across the switch on the back target at the end of the in-line
drops, according to the manual. You can try to clip one end and see if the issue
is still occuring. Replace the cap by a fresh 0.05 uF if deemed defective.

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The score goes up by 50K and does so very quickly.  I have discovered that the scores goes up now even if no targets are hit.  The problem seems to be the bank shot switch at the very back of the 4 drop targets.  The diagnostics have pointed to switch #5 a couple of times and that is the bank shot switch. The switch is not physically on, so it might be the cap as you suggested.  I guess I will try the suggestion of cutting the cap lead to see if that fixes the problem, unless there is another course of action I should take first ?


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UPDATE :

Cutting one of the cap leads has solved the problem.  Now I guess I should replace it.  Thanks for all your help.


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