Je post en francais en esperant que quelqu'un traduise en anglais parce que j'aimerais ça avoir des commentaires ou experience....

J'aimerais savoir si ceux qui deal avec les annonces sur Mr pinball on deja eu de mauvaise experience en temps qu'acheteur....

Mon histoire:

J'ai jamais acheté quoi que se soit sur Mr pinball. Y a 2 semaines je regardais les annonces quand je suis tombé sur celle là: (J'en passe une partie)

""Shuffle and ball bowler pins for sale. All pins are in very good+ condition or better, most NOS. $15.00 each.

4 inch marble swirl pins w/blue numbers:
#2 - (2)
#3 - (3)
.......
.........11 inch translucent white blanks w/no numbers - (4)

NOS triangular translucent 2 and 13/16 inch maroon lane inserts, $10.00 each.

NOS butterfly gear for pinsetter, $20.00 each.

NOS Sun-Glo 16oz. powdered shuffleboard wax, $4.00 each.

Miscellaneous rubber and ebonite balls for ball bowlers. Very good condition+, various sizes, $55.00 each.
.........
........Miscellaneous schematics and manuals for arcade, pitch & bat, bingo, shuffle/ball bowlers, gun/rifle and pinballs. Large selection, inquire for needs.

Prices listed above do not include shipping and insurance. Money order or check for payment only, no PayPal.

Contact:
Michael Scott
voice: (702)378-4678
Las Vegas, NV 89119

Posted: 9 November 2008""

Bon, ça s'adonne que j'ai besoin de ces inserts:  NOS triangular translucent 2 and 13/16 inch maroon lane inserts, $10.00 each

J'envoie un mail au gars pour savoir si c'est toujours disponible:

""I found your ad on Mr pinball...
Do you still have these parts for sale:
NOS triangular translucent 2 and 13/16 inch maroon lane inserts,
$10.00each
If so, please let me know, I would like to buy 2.
Thank you!
Pascal.""

Reponse:

""Pascal,
  I have 5 or 6 left. The shipping will be $2.50.

  Thanks, Michael""

Good! A se point ça va bien!

  ""Pascal wrote:
  Ok, will take 2...

  And I'm also looking for a United Sure Fire shuffle alley schematic, do
  you
  have this schematic?

  Pascal.""

A ma grande surprise il me repond:

""Pascal,
      I have a nice original schematic for a 1960 United Sure Fire shuffle
  alley for $20.00.
  Thanks, Michael""

Je dit a ma grande surprise parce que meme Jeff Wager a pas ce schematic!!! Et dieu seul sais qu'il en a plusieurs, meme des rares!!

""Pascal wrote:
> Michael,
> Can you send me a picture of the schematic and the inserts?
>
> Pascal.""

Là, une semaine pas de nouvelles....

""Pascal wrote:
Michael, Are you still there??
Can you send me a picture of the schematic and the inserts?

Pascal.""

""Pascal,
I already sent pictures last week and did not hear from you. Your computer did not download my email with the photo files, I guess.
                                                                                                 Michael""

Hummm, ça commence a etre louche!!!

""Pascal wrote:
> Sorry, I received nothing.... Can you send me the picture again?
>
> Pascal.""

2-3 jours passent....

""Pascal,
Hey dude, you have a old computer or something. I sent pics again, and got a failure message that the email was too large to go through. Same as before. If you really need these things then you are going to have to do something else.                                                                        Michael""

Ok, là je suis juste sur le point de l'envoyer chier mais j'me retiens..... Mon ordi a pas rapport avec les photos que je recoit ou non!!!!! Rendu là, je le test....

""Pascal wrote:
No, I dont have an old computer! You probably are the only person who can
> not send me a picture!
> Anyway, I 'll take the 2 triangular inserts and the United Sure Fire
> schematic. Hope I can trust you!!
> Let me know the total with the shipping.
>
> Pascal.""

""Pascal,
     Try and find whatever you need somewhere else. I do not need your attitude or your money.""


Normalement rendu là, je l'aurais envoyer chier mais j'me suis montré plus intelligent que lui pis je lui est repondu:

""Ok, no problem.
Juste a little note: I hope you will understand than I don't know you and I
was ready to send you $50 for parts I did not see..... Would you send me the
parts before I paid you??? Probably not because you don't know me!

I'm sure you understand my "attitude"!
Thanks again and sorry to have wasted your time!

Pascal.""

Pas eu de nouvelles depuis....
On s'entend que j'enverais pas une crisse de cent a ce gars là!!! Mais ça me fait chier parceque j'ai besoin de ses 2 inserts là pour mon Varsity!!

Peut on vraiment faire confiance au gens qui vendent des pieces sur Mr pinball????
Avez vous eu des mauvaises experiences??
C'est une des raisons pourquoi j'aime mieux bidder sur ebay, au moins tu as "quelques" recours pis si ça donne rien ben tu peux de defouller sur les feedback!!

I can't understand your comments, but the dialog speaks for itself. Some people, yeesh! BTW, I wouldn't blame Mr Pinball, they're not responsible for the people that post ads.

Quoted from jonny_eh

I can't understand your comments, but the dialog speaks for itself. Some people, yeesh! BTW, I wouldn't blame Mr Pinball, they're not responsible for the people that post ads.

I don't blame Mr pinball, I just want to know if guys/gals here had some bad experience with ads on Mr pinball...

Being positive, I'd guess the email with the photos was too large (maybe more than 1 MB) so they got bounced back by your mail server.     You could get a gmail account or something with much higher allowed mail sizes.

Being negative, he was scamming you, and it was smart to ask for photos of a rare schematic.

Quoted from Tuborg

Being positive, I'd guess the email with the photos was too large (maybe more than 1 MB) so they got bounced back by your mail server.     You could get a gmail account or something with much higher allowed mail sizes.

Being negative, he was scamming you, and it was smart to ask for photos of a rare schematic.

maybe i can teache him how to reduce a picture???

Pascal, j'ai personnellement acheté des pièces à partir d'annonces sur Mr Pinball. Même qu'un était en Suède, je crois.

Pour ma part, les expériences d'achats ont toutes été concluantes, par contre, je les téléphone avant pour établir le deuxième contact.

Bonne chance

tartagliag  

Translation:

Quoted from AMX

I would like to know if anyone has had such an experience on Mr.Pinball as a buyer...

My Story:

I never bought anything on Mr pinball. 2 weeks ago, I fell upon this ad: (shortened)

""Shuffle and ball bowler pins for sale. All pins are in very good+ condition or better, most NOS. $15.00 each.

4 inch marble swirl pins w/blue numbers:
#2 - (2)
#3 - (3)
.......
.........11 inch translucent white blanks w/no numbers - (4)

NOS triangular translucent 2 and 13/16 inch maroon lane inserts, $10.00 each.

NOS butterfly gear for pinsetter, $20.00 each.

NOS Sun-Glo 16oz. powdered shuffleboard wax, $4.00 each.

Miscellaneous rubber and ebonite balls for ball bowlers. Very good condition+, various sizes, $55.00 each.
.........
........Miscellaneous schematics and manuals for arcade, pitch & bat, bingo, shuffle/ball bowlers, gun/rifle and pinballs. Large selection, inquire for needs.

Prices listed above do not include shipping and insurance. Money order or check for payment only, no PayPal.

Contact:
Michael Scott
voice: (702)378-4678
Las Vegas, NV 89119

Posted: 9 November 2008""

Great... I do need those inserts:  NOS triangular translucent 2 and 13/16 inch maroon lane inserts, $10.00 each

I send the seller an email to see if it was still available:

""I found your ad on Mr pinball...
Do you still have these parts for sale:
NOS triangular translucent 2 and 13/16 inch maroon lane inserts,
$10.00each
If so, please let me know, I would like to buy 2.
Thank you!
Pascal.""

Response:

""Pascal,
  I have 5 or 6 left. The shipping will be $2.50.

  Thanks, Michael""

Good! So far so good!

  ""Pascal wrote:
  Ok, will take 2...

  And I'm also looking for a United Sure Fire shuffle alley schematic, do
  you
  have this schematic?

  Pascal.""

To my surprise, he answers:

""Pascal,
      I have a nice original schematic for a 1960 United Sure Fire shuffle
  alley for $20.00.
  Thanks, Michael""

To my big surprise because even Jeff Wager doesn't have these schematic!!! And God knows he hasmany, even rare ones!!

""Pascal wrote:
> Michael,
> Can you send me a picture of the schematic and the inserts?
>
> Pascal.""

Then, 1 week with no news....

""Pascal wrote:
Michael, Are you still there??
Can you send me a picture of the schematic and the inserts?

Pascal.""

""Pascal,
I already sent pictures last week and did not hear from you. Your computer did not download my email with the photo files, I guess.
                                                                                                 Michael""

Hmmm, getting fishy!!!

""Pascal wrote:
> Sorry, I received nothing.... Can you send me the picture again?
>
> Pascal.""

2-3 days pass....

""Pascal,
Hey dude, you have a old computer or something. I sent pics again, and got a failure message that the email was too large to go through. Same as before. If you really need these things then you are going to have to do something else.                                                                        Michael""

Ok, at this point, I am about top tell him to go screw himself but I hold back... my computer has nothing to do with images I get or not!!! At this point, I test him...

""Pascal wrote:
No, I dont have an old computer! You probably are the only person who can
> not send me a picture!
> Anyway, I 'll take the 2 triangular inserts and the United Sure Fire
> schematic. Hope I can trust you!!
> Let me know the total with the shipping.
>
> Pascal.""

""Pascal,
     Try and find whatever you need somewhere else. I do not need your attitude or your money.""


Normally at this point I would be telling him to f**k off, but I was smarter than him and I answered:

""Ok, no problem.
Juste a little note: I hope you will understand than I don't know you and I
was ready to send you $50 for parts I did not see..... Would you send me the
parts before I paid you??? Probably not because you don't know me!

I'm sure you understand my "attitude"!
Thanks again and sorry to have wasted your time!

Pascal.""

No news since.
Obviously, he will never see a penny from me!!! But it pisses me off because I needed those 2 inserts for my Varsity!!

Can we truly trust anyone selling parts on M.Pinball????
Have any of you had bad experiences??
That is why I rather use Ebay, at least you have SOME recourse and it does feel good to let loose on the feedback!!

Pascal

You asked for an opinion on Mr. Pinball.  All the sellers are different.

But I don't know dude, it sounds like you lost your cool a little when you sent this:

""Pascal wrote:
No, I dont have an old computer! You probably are the only person who can
> not send me a picture!"

When asking a favour it's not a good idea to get pushy.  Instead you could ignore his remark and could have said "I'm sorry, my email account only accepts images of xMB size. Can you make them smaller or send one separately to test?  I hate to put you through this, but I would like a picture of the items before you send them. Thank you for all the trouble you are going to."

You get more flies with sugar than vinegar.

Who knows, but that line qualifies as attitude IMHO.  No offense intended, sometimes the sellers are old farts or people with low experience on the Internet and they don't understand or have no netiquette.

I'll bet if you go back with an appology, an explaination and a possible option (such as a picture uploading site) you may get him back on board.  If still no pics then it isn't worth it iunless you can get positive recommendations for the seller on RGP.  

Merci Ian...

Quoted from websherpa

You asked for an opinion on Mr. Pinball.  All the sellers are different.

But I don't know dude, it sounds like you lost your cool a little when you sent this:

""Pascal wrote:
No, I dont have an old computer! You probably are the only person who can
> not send me a picture!"

I wrote that because is the truth! I never received a complain like that before....

I know my english is not really good, maybe he misunderstood what I wanted to say??

Anyway, I think he lost is cool before me and maybe its why I wrote that?!?

....and at this point, who know if he is a good or bad seller?! Maybe he don't like the canadians especially the frogs??

I have had some issues with the Mr.Pinball Classifieds, as much selling as buying. Most often when buying the description of the item was somewhat lacking in details. Cases in point:

- I bought a Lightning backglass that was rated a solid 8 with minimal cracking. True.... especially since it was half flaked off.

- One buyer asked me for 57 pictures (I mess you not...) then proceeded to lowball.

- Dealt a lot with impatient sellers like this one... they get crapped on by one guy and end up being crabby with 10 other buyers even if they are nice.

Worse case scenario, someone here can buy the items for you.